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Mika

(17,751 posts)
1. Rumor in Miami is that he was the target of a Miami based reactionary paramilitary group.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jul 2012

A botched false flag op.



flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. It's pretty basic what happened I think
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:06 AM
Jul 2012

The driver had a rental, didn't know the area, missed reading a sign that said slow down, the asphalt ended and it was just dirt and he went off the road into a tree.

What catches my eye about it is that the two Europeans are right wing youth group representatives. My analysis is that they were trying to kick up dust about the Cholera situation to attack Cuba. Paya is not one of them but has very little backing at this point so he was probably making a bit of money and pushing his cause. I'm sure the Europeans were being funded.

What's disgusting to me is that Yoani inserted herself into this and even tweeted some snark about the Cholera situation, that confirmed it for me, it was about attacking the medical system and scaring off tourists. What they got out of it were 50 arrests for yelling outside the funeral, accomplishing not much, as usual, but keeping their franchise going in the eyes of the dinosaurs in Miami.

The irony of it is that Paya is not a threat to anyone, not false flag material at all, and he died probably because the driver was incompetent or reckless. You probably know those roads, you have to drive like a granny if you are a foreigner, or you will have a accident.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
3. If they didn't do stuff like this, they wouldn't have been boasting for years about sending agents
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jul 2012

into Cuba to murder people.

Last one which has made the news outside Florida has been Rodolpho Frometa, who boasted that his group made it safely into Cuba to kill the Cuban 5's other "spy" who went home before the FBI arrested them (after they had sought the FBI's help earlier, and been turned away).

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Rodolfo Frometa
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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
5. Me too. I haven't run into those yet
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jul 2012

Just the usual conspiracy on the Baba lu site.

They won't give it a break even if a physics expert shows them exactly how skidding onto gravel going 75 mph can cause an accident when brakes are applied suddenly.

Like I said before, if you are a tourist on the country roads in Cuba it's best to drive like your grandmother.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
6. Oswaldo Paya death: Spanish politician in jail in Cuba
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:16 AM
Aug 2012

Cuba has decided that Spanish politician Angel Carromero should stay in custody over the death of well-known dissident Oswaldo Paya in a car crash.

Mr Carromero was driving a rental car that crashed against a tree as it hit an unpaved stretch of road in eastern Cuba on 22 July.

A preliminary investigation blamed the driver for the crash.

A Cuban prosecutor has up to six months to decide whether to press charges against Mr Carromero.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-19069595

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
7. Cuba charges Spaniard in dissident Paya's death
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 02:17 PM
Aug 2012

Cuba charges Spaniard in dissident Paya's death
PETER ORSI, Associated Press
Updated 10:48 p.m., Tuesday, July 31, 2012

HAVANA (AP) — Cuba has charged a Spanish citizen with the equivalent of vehicular manslaughter in a car accident that killed prominent dissident Oswaldo Paya and another government opponent, official media said Tuesday.

Angel Carromero, who was driving the car carrying Paya when it crashed in eastern Cuba July 22, "has been accused of the charge of homicide while driving a vehicle on public roads," Communist Party newspaper Granma said.

Under the penal code, a person convicted of violating traffic laws or rules resulting in the death of another can be sentenced to one to 10 years in prison.

In videotaped testimony played for journalists Monday, Carromero said he lost control of the car when it suddenly entered an unpaved area of road under construction and he slammed on the brakes, causing it to skid.

More:
http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Cuba-charges-Spaniard-in-dissident-Paya-s-death-3749631.php#ixzz22JssL6XL

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
11. I've never heard one normal thing about them from the first, when I learned
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:28 AM
Aug 2012

the show hosts name people they want to make trouble for, give their addresses, etc. and encourage listeners to go after them.

What a vicious bunch.

And Ninoska Pérez-Castellon. <shudder> Pérez Roura? OMG! And they're still knocking around Miami there, aren't they? After all these decades? Making war on their political enemies?

Have heard they have launched a lot of personal hate campaigns even financing legal fees for various terrorists like Posada-Carriles.

How do you keep for wanting to rip our ears off, listening to them? There's nothing like them outside Florida, I'll bet you!

Have heard they've got really filthy mouths, too, right on the ordinary US radio channels, and that the government has never gone after them for that, either.

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