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Judi Lynn

(160,219 posts)
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 12:53 AM Jul 2017

The Guardians Propaganda on Venezuela


All you need to know
by Ricardo Vaz / July 25th, 2017

With the Constituent Assembly elections due to take place on July 30th, the Guardian published a piece titled “Venezuela elections: all you need to know”. But instead of breaking through the fog of falsehood and misinformation that is typical of the mainstream media’s coverage of Venezuela, the Guardian comes up with another propaganda piece laden with lies, distortions and omissions. In this article we go through the Guardian’s piece, clarifying the falsehoods, adding the conveniently omitted information and questioning the whole narrative that is presented.

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What is happening on 30 July?

To be fair to the Guardian, there is one almost-informative paragraph, where the electoral procedure is explained. In a previous article the Guardian stated that

“[…] election rules appear designed to guarantee a majority for the government even though it has minority popular support”,

instead of presenting said electoral rules and letting the reader decide if they are so designed. This time they do present the rules, only omitting to say that everyone not currently holding public office can run for a seat. But then the Guardian brings in the propaganda artillery to ensure the reader’s conclusions do not stray too far off from those of the State Department.

More:
http://dissidentvoice.org/2017/07/the-guardians-propaganda-on-venezuela/
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The Guardians Propaganda on Venezuela (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2017 OP
I call bullshit on this "takedown" of the Guardian. DetlefK Jul 2017 #1
You really ought to try visiting Venezuela, Judi GatoGordo Jul 2017 #2
Judi once again sympathizing with a criminal authoritarian narcostate Marksman_91 Jul 2017 #3
Sadly, about 20% of the population adores all things Chavismo GatoGordo Jul 2017 #4

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. I call bullshit on this "takedown" of the Guardian.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:35 AM
Jul 2017
instead of presenting said electoral rules and letting the reader decide if they are so designed.

So, the newspaper should waste precious space in the article by copy&pasting God-knows how many paragraphs and pages of legal text?



And if the opposition has such an overwhelming majority, why did they decide not to participate?

Because they are against this referendum and do not want to lend this referendum any credibility.



In a recent Investig’Action article we examined the opposition’s highly doubtful numbers, Venezuelanalysis did the same.

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait... You mean dissidentvoice.org is allowed to just skip and throw conclusions at the reader, while the Guardian is supposed to post the original source-material for full transparency???



It was not the government that overrode the National Assembly, but the Supreme Court.

And the Supreme Court judges were handpicked by Maduro.

Funny how dissidentvoice.org is allowed to leave out inconvenient facts, but the Guardian isn't.



To anyone familiar with the recent history of Venezuela these announcements sound eerily like the events leading up to the failed 2002 coup.

Anybody opposed to Maduro is a CIA-stooge. Got it.




Maduro has said that, rain or shine, there will be a presidential election in 2018. And he said it after convening the Constituent Assembly. The omission of this statement is again plain dishonest journalism.

Maduro has promised to go for violence and civil war if he loses at the ballot-box. The omission of this statement is again plain dishonest journalism.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/110856116
“I say this for the whole world to hear, and I hope that the world would listen after 90 days of violence, destruction and death, if Venezuela falls into chaos and violence, if the bolivarian revolution is destroyed, we’ll fight back, we’ll never surrender and what we couldn’t achieve through votes, we’d do with guns, like Bolívar, Sucre and Negro Primero did before us. Make no mistake, we want peace, we’re peaceful men and women, but we’re fighters.” Nicolás Maduro, 28/06/2017




It is amazing that countries that are part of PetroCaribe are bullied by oil diplomacy, and yet countries that receive billions in US (military) aid and host US military bases are moved by a genuine love for democracy and human rights.

Venezuela is bullying and bribing other countries? Let's change topics and talk about the US instead!
 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
2. You really ought to try visiting Venezuela, Judi
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jul 2017

I have been there over 20 times, and have many relatives still living there.

Of course, you have to get there first. Rare is the international flight to Caracas these days, as Maduro doesn't allow airlines to repatriate their profits (vile, vile profits!) in any currency that has actual value. You might have to fly into Colombia and bus it to the border.

And once you get there, Judi, you have to contend with the corrupt Chavista state machine at Maiquetía airport... the one that takes the "gringo" aside, takes their passport and tells them, "You have Big Problem... why are you trying to bring in illegal things to Venezuela?" Naturally, these problems can be alleviated by paying the "fine"... in dollars... providing that you have any left after your dollars were forcibly exchanged for you (as a courtesy!) at the "official rate" of 10 worthless Bolivars per dollar. But, hopefully your spouse can access some currency that has been hidden and not found... yet.

Providing you get through the airport without being robbed in the terminal (worlds most unsafe airport), you take your chances on not being kidnapped by the colectivos (they don't care if you are a Marxist or not. Sorry Judi!) once you get outside. They will chain you to a pipe in some squalid shack and wait for the $20,000 ransom for your release.

Good luck and have fun in Caracas, Judi.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
3. Judi once again sympathizing with a criminal authoritarian narcostate
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 12:11 PM
Jul 2017

She's so blinded by ideology, she won't even admit to the fact that any government she supports violates human rights on a daily basis. Methinks she should take a visit to Venezuela at some point and ask the people how they feel now after almost 20 years of Chavismo. There's a reason why no other country wants to emulate that model; they see just what an utter failure it is.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
4. Sadly, about 20% of the population adores all things Chavismo
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jul 2017

Its like a religion to these people. Chavez is their Haile Selassie. They bought every line of his BS and could probably quote from his innumerable cadenas. Chavez gave them freebies, guns and all the power that comes with Chavismo. And all that he asked was that they show up to his weekly rallies, twist a few arms/crack a few skulls if needed, and vote for him.

Whats worse, Chavismo is worshiped by even more die-hard Leftists who have never stepped foot in Venezuela, don't know anything about Venezuela, nor know a single person from (or living in Venezuela). These arm-chair Marxists (like Jorge Martin, living in luxury in Madrid) espouse all things Chavismo... so long as they don't have to live it.

FWIW, Venezuela used to have a THRIVING union private sector. That all changed when Chavez broke the unions in 2002 when they struck. (Think Ronald Reagan and PATCO). All those highly educated and skilled oil and steel workers are now working in Mexico, Brazil and the United States. The replacements? Chavista loyalists who can't find their ass with both hands and a map. Which is why companies like Halliburton are doing the jobs that Venezuelans used to do. Except now, even Halliburton has had enough and the entire oil infrastructure is crumbling.

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