Maduro ignores them, then calls upon unpaid doctors and nurses to join him in a "new revolution"

[GatoGordo]

Maduro: I call doctors and nurses to make a revolution in the health sector
July 19, 2018

Oleg Kostko / photo: @ VTVcanal8 / 19 Jul 2018.- The President of the Republic, Nicolás Maduro, invited the doctors and nurses of the country on Thursday to build a new health system for the country - a modern system.



"I come to summon all Venezuelan health professionals and workers to make a revolution within the revolution to build an advanced functional modern scientific integrated system that serves the people at the level of health," he declared at a graduation ceremony of integral doctors.

He also called on the vice president, Delcy Rodriguez and his cabinet to conduct a health day to reform the medical system and modernize the country's hospitals. "I want to do very soon a full day of national consultation that concludes in a great congress of the Venezuelan health to approve the plan of transformation of the Venezuelan health system, to improve the neighborhood in 1, 2 and 3 and to definitely face the issue of the country's hospitals with a modernization plan, I want to do it soon."

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http://www.noticierodigital.com/2018/07/maduro-colombia-mueren-miles-enfermedades-prevenibles-curables/

Ignoring the 800 lb gorilla in the room, Maduro goes for more sloganeering and no substance. The current doctors and nurses in Venezuela are NOT GETTING PAID... there is few supplies (no sterile gauze, dialysis, antiseptics)... fewer drugs (insulin, HIV, immunizations)... intermittent electricity and <b>NO RUNNING WATER IN THE HOSPITALS.</b> Yet Maduro wants to create a "new revolution" in medical care?

Rome burns, and Maduro dances joropo...

FWIW, the "integral doctors" are not doctors. They are at best medics who have no background in science. These are the same type of "doctors" that Cuba floods the third world with in return for hard currency or something else of value. If they follow the MO of the Cuban doctors, plenty of rural young girls are about to become impregnated and then abandoned by these frauds.

[flotsam]

1. Funny-when I google "Cuban Doctors"

This is the list of related searches:

cuban doctors salary

cuban doctors ranking

why are cuban doctors so good

cuban doctors best in the world

cuban doctors abroad

cuban doctors in africa

cuban doctors working in usa

cuban doctors in brazil


Note nothing is listed about shitty doctors or fake doctors. You can dislike their political system all you like but your description of the doctors seems to lack veracity.

[GatoGordo]

3. Other than the fact they cannot sit the medical board test in nearly every nation?

"Cuba received $270 million dollars a year from the Brazilian government, hard currency that Havana desperately needs to ease inflation."

(This in return for Odebrecht building a deep water port near Havana, courtesy of kickbacks from former disgraced president Dilma Rousseff. FWIW, only ONE Cuban physician has ever passed the Brazilian medical exam. EVER.)



https://qz.com/234561/the-story-behind-cubas-deal-to-send-doctors-to-brazil/

Costa Rica rejects high number of medical graduates from Cuba

Graduates of Cuba’s Escuela Latinoamericana de Medicina, or ELAM, are “gravely deficient” in their preparation to practise medicine, the head of Costa Rica’s most celebrated medical school told journalists last month.

Of the 138 graduates who failed the medical licensing exams in Costa Rica, 59 were graduates of ELAM, said Ricardo Boza Cordero, director of the medical programme at the University of Costa Rica.

According to Boza, the students were largely behind in fundamental areas including paediatrics and gynaecology-obstetrics, and failed to achieve passing scores in the 11 exams administered.

http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20120928140901202

The ONLY place these doctors work is in under-served areas of developing nations.

[flotsam]

8. YOUR LINK:

The fact that 43% of those who failed the licensing exam studied in Cuba comes as a surprise to those familiar with the health system there. Doctors from Cuba, a country that has long been known as an epicentre of medicine in Latin America, have been sent all over the world to aid in health missions in disaster zones.

The country boasts one of the highest life expectancies in the hemisphere and excellent healthcare coverage rates, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez sought medical care on the Caribbean island when he was diagnosed with cancer in June 2011.

Lack of congruence in curriculum?

But the issue may not be one of quality of education, but the lack of congruence in curriculum. While Costa Rica may be putting emphasis on some subject matters, Cuba could be preparing students for other areas of focus.

[GatoGordo]

9. They are not trained as physicians

Spin it however you want, but the fact remains that these ELAM doctors are not trained at the Ph.D/JD/MD/DO level of expertise. They are field medics trained to do a field medics job. Which is why a tiny nation like Cuba can pump out thousands of these frauds each year.

A Doctorate degree actually MEANS SOMETHING in the rest of the world.

[flotsam]

10. I'M SPINNING IT???

Your the one saying they have no medical training and they're all sexual predators. One of us is a little deranged on the subject.

[GatoGordo]

12. Have you been to Venezuela?

My wife is a physician (MD) who was born/raised in Venezuela, who is licensed and credentialed throughout the United States.

I have first-hand knowledge about nearly every aspect of the Venezuela medical situation. I have been to the Misión Barrio Adentros. I have met these "doctors" who have only a rudimentary science background. I have seen the chaos left behind when these Cuban Lothario's impregnate scores of poor young Venezuelan women (easily impressed by their physician credentials!) then are reassigned for their own safety.

The ONLY reason these frauds exist is to accumulate hard currency for the Castroists. God knows Cuba doesn't have anything else to export these days.

And now, since Chavismo has stopped paying Cuba for their services, these fake doctors are abandoning the Misión Barrio Adentros wholesale. Which is why Maduro is trying to pump out his homegrown fake doctors.

You? What is your expertise on the subject?

[Farmer-Rick]

2. If only the US would STOP funding the opposition

Then we would know if socialism would work without the uber rich capitalist interference.

But Trump really, really, wants to invade Venezuela.

And now we are suppose to hate Cuban doctors too? Just because they don't want to make millions off of the sick and dying like our greedy health care system does.

Trashing Cuban doctors is just another excuse and method by which the oligarchs keep health care too expensive for the American middle class. Besides Venezuela and Cuba, You know who also has free health care? Russians....everyone has it but not a single US citizen.

But let's claim Cuban doctors are bad to ensure free health care from altruistic doctors never comes to the US. Can you say propaganda?

[GatoGordo]

4. I'm a huge fan of nationalized healthcare. Medicare for everyone.

One has nothing to do with the other.

A Swedish doctor (socialized medicine) would have little trouble working as a physician in Cuba. On the other hand, the Cuban "ELAM doctor" would not be allowed to touch a patient in Sweden.

Which kind of socialist paradigm do you want your healthcare in?

[Farmer-Rick]

5. Actually it does

So how many Cuban dooctors do you know? The ones I know are as competent, if not more, than the average US overworked but very rich GP.

Aside from the stranglehold medical colleges have on the number of doctors allowed to graduate causing severe shortages in rural and inner city areas, licensing and redundant regulations keep foreign doctors out.

The reason the US has all these licensing requirements, different in every state, yet we have idiot doctors every where in every state, is because the doctors have joined with the oligarchs to keep free trade out of the medical field. That way doctors can make millions and keep out doctors who are more interested in medicine than their own pocket books. All those licenses and elaborate requirements are to keep foreign doctors out.

US doctors are all about their money. Can't have caring doctors replacing greedy fools.

[GatoGordo]

6. I have seen many Cuban ELAM doctors in Venezuela. Great for well baby checks and immunizations

Irrigate a wound and put a few stitches in. The equivalent of an Army medic. Things they had no training for they sent on to see a REAL doctor in an actual clinic.

The ONLY reason they were there was because Chavez exchanged their services for oil and currency.

When they weren't on duty, the vast majority of them spent their time impregnating the poor local girls. When things got too heated (angry father types coming around) they transferred to a different Barrio Adentro in a different locality

These "ELAM doctors" are poorly trained in the sciences and do not have anything close to the experience a GP would have in a legitimate medical school. They are pumped out by the thousands each year and sent off to work as vitural slaves while the host countries send 75-80% of the loot back to the Castroists.

Call them whatever you want, but they are not doctors.

So... how many Cuban "doctors" have YOU met? Did you know that the doctors who treated Chavez for cancer in Cuba prior to his death were NOT Cuban doctors, but Spanish?

"...yet we have idiot doctors every where in every state..."

Q. What do you call the guy who graduated last in his class, from the worst medical school in the United States?

A. Doctor

We might have some shitty doctors, but they are doctors who went to actual medical schools and are registered, certified and licensed to practice medicine.

[DetlefK]

11. We know whether socialism works. Ask the people living in socialism. It doesn't.

Ask people living in the former Soviet Union what life was like in Socialism. Ask them about the shortages, the permanent economic turmoil, the oppression.

Ask the people in China and they will tell you about the enormous economic growth.
They won't tell you about the colossal corruption and environmental destruction.
They won't tell you about the permanent control and propaganda, because if they did tell you, they would be sent to jail.
And if you want to see confused faces, ask them about the Tiananmen massacre. Most Chinese don't even know that their own government once massacred their own people for the sake of oppressing democracy.



I would love to make these points in the socialist sub-forum here on DU, but I got banned because I dared to say that we shouldn't erect statues of Lenin because he was a dictator and mass-murderer. Criticizing mass-murderers is kind of a big no-no over there.

[GatoGordo]

7. 1 in 3 admitted to Venezuelan public hospitals DIED (2016)

Venezuela: Health Crisis Means Kid's Scraped Knee Can Be Life or Death
by Associated Press / Oct.04.2016 / 12:11 PM ET / Updated Oct.05.2016 / 6:14 AM ET

It was just a scraped knee. So 3-year-old Ashley Pacheco's parents did what parents do: They gave her a hug, cleaned the wound twice with rubbing alcohol and thought no more of it. Two weeks later, the little girl writhed screaming in a hospital bed. Her breathing came in ragged gasps as she begged passing patients for a sip of water.

Her mother stayed day and night in the trauma unit. She kept Ashley on an empty stomach in case she might cut in front of hundreds of other patients for emergency surgery in one of the hospital's few functioning operating rooms. Her father scoured Caracas for scarce antibiotics to fight the infection spreading through his daughter's body. They had no idea how much worse it was going to get.

If Venezuela has become dangerous for the healthy, it is now deadly for those who fall ill.

One-in-three people admitted to public hospitals last year died, the government reports. The number of operational hospital beds has fallen by 40 percent since just 2014. And as the economy fails, the country is running short on 85 percent of medicines, according to the national drugstore trade group.

"I really don't know of any other country where things have deteriorated so quickly, to such an incredible extent," said Rafael Perez-Escamilla, a Yale University School of Public Health professor who has worked in Latin America and Africa. "Venezuela's health system was a model for Latin America. Now you are seeing an implosion where people cannot get basic care."

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/venezuela-health-crisis-means-kid-s-scraped-knee-can-be-n659211

iViva la Revolucion!

[Judi Lynn]

13. Such an ambitious photograph chosen to illustrate something in your opening post!

I've seen similar photographs used by Cuban "exile" publications in South Florida repeatedly.

Very interesting, isn't it?

Tried to find the source for the photo, got this address:



Do you have any information on "yhnujmki.com?" Lotsa luck. It gets really murky trying to run it down.

Thanks for the entertaining claim you are a physician's husband who has the wish and the time to flood progressive message boards with anti-leftist messages around the clock, 365 days a year.

By the way, those very "sick" guys look like tall, young, very healthy, strong men, maybe even athletes, to be lying around in a contrived situation like that. What's with that imitation dried-on blood smeared on one man's leg? Doesn't even look authentic. It looks as if someone cynical and mentally deficient is trying to pull the legs of people he imagines can be easily duped by deeply stupid hoax photos.

[GatoGordo]

14. You caught me, Judy! The picture was from that right-wing rag, the New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/16/world/americas/dying-infants-and-no-medicine-inside-venezuelas-failing-hospitals.html