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Eugene

(61,859 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:37 PM Oct 2018

Venezuela says jailed lawmaker commits suicide; opposition says he was killed

Source: Reuters

WORLD NEWS OCTOBER 8, 2018 / 6:22 PM / UPDATED 16 MINUTES AGO

Venezuela says jailed lawmaker commits suicide; opposition says he was killed

Mayela Armas
4 MIN READ

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela’s government said on Monday that a jailed opposition lawmaker killed himself by jumping from the 10th floor of the state intelligence agency headquarters (SEBIN) where he was being held, but his party said that he was murdered by the government.

Municipal lawmaker Fernando Alban, 56, was jailed last Friday for alleged involvement in the explosion of two drones during a military parade in August that was led by President Nicolas Maduro, Interior Minister Nestor Reverol said in a post on Twitter.

“At the moment he was going to be transported to court, while he was in the SEBIN waiting room, he jumped from the window of the building and fell, causing his death,” Reverol wrote.

That account differed from the one by Chief Prosecutor Tarek Saab, who said in televised statements that Alban had asked to use a bathroom and jumped from there.

The opposition First Justice party, to which Alban belonged, said it was holding Maduro’s government responsible.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/venezuela-says-jailed-lawmaker-commits-suicide-opposition-says-he-was-killed-idUSKCN1MI2AW
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Venezuela says jailed lawmaker commits suicide; opposition says he was killed (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2018 OP
How long until this happens here? dewsgirl Oct 2018 #1
probably already has samir.g Oct 2018 #2
People have heard about CIA manual instructions on the subject for decades: Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #3
Thank you, I have never seen this. Not that I am shocked by any of it. dewsgirl Oct 2018 #4
Fabulous parody! GatoGordo Oct 2018 #5
Human rights needs to take back seat to The Revolution GatoGordo Oct 2018 #6
Wait... what? The lie I meant to repeat was... GatoGordo Oct 2018 #7

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
3. People have heard about CIA manual instructions on the subject for decades:
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:21 PM
Oct 2018

I've seen tons of references made to the CIA manual instructions on the subject online:

A STUDY OF ASSASSINATION

. . .

Techniques may be considered as follows:

1. Manual.

It is possible to kill a man with the bare hands, but very few are skillful enough to do it well. Even a highly trained Judo expert will hesitate to risk killing by hand unless he has absolutely no alternative. However, the simplest local tools a re often much the most efficient means of assassination. A hammer, axe, wrench, screw driver, fire poker, kitchen knife, lamp stand, or anything hard, heavy and handy will suffice. A length of rope or wire or a belt will do if the assassin is strong and agile. All such improvised weapons have the important advantage of availability and apparent innocence. The obviously lethal machine gun failed to kill Trotsky where an item of sporting goods succeeded.

In all safe cases where the assassin may be subject to search, either before or after the act, specialized weapons should not be used. Even in the lost case, the assassin may accidentally be searched before the act and should not carry an incrimin ating device if any sort of lethal weapon can be improvised at or near the site. If the assassin normally carries weapons because of the nature of his job, it may still be desirable to improvise and implement at the scene to avoid disclosure of his ident ity.



2. Accidents.

For secret assassination, either simple or chase, the contrived accident is the most effective technique. When successfully executed, it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated.

The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stair wells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve. Bridge falls into water are not reliable. In simple cases a private meeting with the subject may be arranged at a properly-cased location. The act may be executed by sudden, vigorous [excised] of the ankles, tipping the subject over the edge. If the assassin immediately sets up an outcry, playing the "horrified wit ness", no alibi or surreptitious withdrawal is necessary. In chase cases it will usually be necessary to stun or drug the subject before dropping him. Care is required to insure that no wound or condition not attributable to the fall is discernible after death.

Falls into the sea or swiftly flowing rivers may suffice if the subject cannot swim. It will be more reliable if the assassin can arrange to attempt rescue, as he can thus be sure of the subject's death and at the same time establish a workable al ibi.



If the subject's personal habits make it feasible, alcohol may be used [2 words excised] to prepare him for a contrived accident of any kind.

Falls before trains or subway cars are usually effective, but require exact timing and can seldom be free from unexpected observation.

Automobile accidents are a less satisfactory means of assassination. If the subject is deliberately run down, very exact timing is necessary and investigation is likely to be thorough. If the subject's car is tampered with, reliability is very lo w. The subject may be stunned or drugged and then placed in the car, but this is only reliable when the car can be run off a high cliff or into deep water without observation.

Arson can cause accidental death if the subject is drugged and left in a burning building. Reliability is not satisfactory unless the building is isolated and highly combustible.

3. Drugs.

In all types of assassination except terroristic, drugs can be very effective. If the assassin is trained as a doctor or nurse and the subject is under medical care, this is an easy and rare method. An overdose of morphine administered as a sedat ive will cause death without disturbance and is difficult to detect. The size of the dose will depend upon whether the subject has been using narcotics regularly. If not, two grains will suffice.



If the subject drinks heavily, morphine or a similar narcotic can be injected at the passing out stage, and the cause of death will often be held to be acute alcoholism.

Specific poisons, such as arsenic or strychine, are effective but their possession or procurement is incriminating, and accurate dosage is problematical. Poison was used unsuccessfully in the assassination of Rasputin and Kolohan, though the latte r case is more accurately described as a murder.



4. Edge Weapons

Any locally obtained edge device may be successfully employed. A certain minimum of anatomical knowledge is needed for reliability.

Puncture wounds of the body cavity may not be reliable unless the heart is reached. The heart is protected by the rib cage and is not always easy to locate.

Abdominal wounds were once nearly always mortal, but modern medical treatment has made this no longer true.

Absolute reliability is obtained by severing the spinal cord in the cervical region. This can be done with the point of a knife or a light blow of an axe or hatchet.

Another reliable method is the severing of both jugular and carotid blood vessels on both sides of the windpipe.

If the subject has been rendered unconscious by other wounds or drugs, either of the above methods can be used to insure death.

5. Blunt Weapons

As with edge weapons, blunt weapons require some anatomical knowledge for effective use. Their main advantage is their universal availability. A hammer may be picked up almost anywhere in the world. Baseball and [illeg] bats are very widely dist ributed. Even a rock or a heavy stick will do, and nothing resembling a weapon need be procured, carried or subsequently disposed of.

Blows should be directed to the temple, the area just below and behind the ear, and the lower, rear portion of the skull. Of course, if the blow is very heavy, any portion of the upper skull will do. The lower frontal portion of the head, from th e eyes to the throat, can withstand enormous blows without fatal consequences.


More:
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html

You'll run into references yourself if and when you start looking for them. Very creepy subject.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. Thank you, I have never seen this. Not that I am shocked by any of it.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:02 AM
Oct 2018

Probably happens a lot more often than we can imagine.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
5. Fabulous parody!
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 12:52 PM
Oct 2018

No source for this? Who wrote this manual? The CIA? KGB? Not one reference?

The "National Security Archive" at George Washington University?

Founded in 1985 by journalists and scholars to check rising government secrecy, the National Security Archive combines a unique range of functions: investigative journalism center, research institute on international affairs, library and archive of declassified U.S. documents ("the world's largest nongovernmental collection" according to the Los Angeles Times), leading non-profit user of the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, public interest law firm defending and expanding public access to government information, global advocate of open government, and indexer and publisher of former secrets.


If this source was on the level, they wouldn't have any qualms about documenting the source of this tome.

The more I read about the National Security Archive, the more it appears to be another mouthpiece for the usual anti-American (pro-Kremlin, pro-Castro, pro-North Korea) suspects.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/
 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
6. Human rights needs to take back seat to The Revolution
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 12:54 PM
Oct 2018

The Revolution is what is important. Chavez himself said that he would rather be dressed in rags and starving than to allow The Revolution to die. (Which is fortunate, since rags and starvation are the norm in Venezuela now!)

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