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Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

Former US senator hints at CIA role in Bolivia


Evo Morales says 'coup plotters' raze Bolivian democracy to ground
Vakkas Dogantekin |
11.11.2019

By Vakkas Dogantekin

ANKARA

A former U.S. senator has sarcastically criticized the CIA for the military coup in Bolivia, hinting U.S. involvement in the downfall of elected president Evo Morales on Sunday.

"Congratulations on winning power in Bolivia, @CIA!" Mike Gravel said on Twitter on Sunday, in an apparent hit at the global spy agency.

The Democratic former Alaska Senator has long criticized the U.S. policies in Latin America.

"The lie you will hear ad nauseum is that socialist states failed spontaneously - in reality it was the concerted effort of the US Imperial Machine to crush any nation that could oppose them any time it appeared," he tweeted in May.

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Morales said he resigned and a “coup” had been carried out against him. He said he made the decision to prevent Camacho and Carlos Mesa, a former president of Bolivia, from issuing further instructions to their supporters to attack Bolivians.

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Reply Former US senator hints at CIA role in Bolivia (Original post)
Judi Lynn Nov 2019 OP
Baitball Blogger Nov 2019 #1
dware Nov 2019 #2
Judi Lynn Nov 2019 #3
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 10:09 AM

1. Shit. I hope not.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:02 AM

2. So far, at least, there is no evidence of CIA involvement,

he's just mouthing off.
If he has any proof, he should present it to the American people and the International Court.

As it appears now, this is a popular people's uprising against a dictator who was violating the Bolivian Constitution to hold on to power.

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Response to dware (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 04:27 PM

3. They always make sure everyone knows they overthrow liberals, don't they?

Why would anyone think they do anything covertly, anyway?

In fact, spies always wear bright orange suits, like traffic cones.

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KISSINGER TO NIXON: "WE HELPED" COUP FORCES IN CHILE

New Telephone transcript records conversation with President


TELCON: September 16, 1973, 11:50 a.m. Kissinger Talking to Nixon (pages 1,2)

Washington D.C. May 26, 2004 - In one of his first conversations with President Richard Nixon following the bloody military coup in Chile, Henry Kissinger stated "we helped them," according to declassified transcripts of a telephone conversation obtained today by the National Security Archive. "That is right," Nixon responded.

The transcript records a call made by President Nixon to Kissinger's home on the weekend following General Augusto Pinochet's violent overthrow of the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende in Chile. Kissinger reports to the president that the new military regime was "getting consolidated" and complains that the press is "bleeding because a pro-Communist government has been overthrown." When Nixon notes that "our hand doesn't show on this one though," Kissinger responds that "We didn't do it" [referring to the coup itself]. I mean we helped them….created the conditions as great as possible."

The September 16, 1973, "telcon" was found by the Archive's Chile analyst, Peter Kornbluh, among thousands of pages of transcriptions of Kissinger's telephone calls dated between 1969 and 1974, declassified today at the initiative of the Archive. Kornbluh, the author of The Pinochet File, called the new document "damning proof, in Kissinger's own words, that the Nixon administration directly contributed to creating a coup climate in Chile which made the September 11, 1973, military takeover possible."

In his confirmation hearings as Secretary of State that very week, Kissinger denied that the U.S. Government played any role whatsoever in Allende's overthrow. A year later, after details of a CIA destabilization program had leaked to the press, he again testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that "the intent of the United States was not to destabilize or to subvert [Allende]….Our concern was with the election of 1976 and not at all with a coup in 1973 about which we knew nothing and [with] which we had nothing to do…."

In his conversation with Nixon, Kissinger suggested that the press should be "celebrating" instead of being critical of the coup. "In the Eisenhower period we would be heroes," he tells the President. "But listen," Nixon replies to his national security adviser, "as far as people are concerned let me say they aren't going to buy this crap from the Liberals on this one."

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB123/chile.htm

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The U.S. has always made open and easily noticed gestures whenever it overthrows leftist leaders in countries controlled by virulent racist fascists.

Break down and get up to speed on your Bolivian history, it will only enhance your enviable view of US/Bolivian history and Caucasian control of the indigenous. What do you have to lose?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:59 PM

4. I'm plenty up to speed on Central and Latin American history.

Can you prove that the CIA is involved and this isn't a popular people's uprising against a man who was attempting to circumvent the Bolivian Constitution?

All the information I've seen, and I've been following this closely, is that Morales was trying to illegally hold on to power by circumventing the Constitution and rigging the election, even the OAS said the election wasn't legitimate.

I know that the US has done bad things in LA and CA, but sometimes it really is the people rising up against a dictator, as Evo Morales was becoming.

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Response to dware (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:47 AM

5. It'd be good to spend some time studying how the OAS has always worked. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:19 AM

6. Once again, respectfully,

I am up to speed on all aspects of LA and CA histories, up to and including the OAS.

We are just not going to see eye to eye on this subject, so, at this point, I thank you for the respectful conversation and bid you a fare thee well and have a pleasant day.

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Response to dware (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:55 PM

7. True, there is a difference in points of view.













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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:48 AM

8. Thiss dickwad wouldn't know the first thing about driving a tractor/trailer.

I hurts my eyes to even see him in a truck.

That's either an International ProStar or a Freightliner Cascadia, I'm leaning to it being a Freightliner Cascadia.

I myself own and operate a Peterbilt 389 longnose with the full size sleeper.

I love that bottom picture of trump holding an unsigned Patriots helmet as compared to Pres. Obama holding a fully signed Patriots helmet, that's priceless.

Anyways Judi Lynn, you have a great day and it's nice to know that we can have differences of opinions without the rancor towards each other.

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