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The hour and a half live Guardian interview with Kerry in London (Original Post) karynnj Nov 2018 OP
He seems like a smart person, politicasista Nov 2018 #1
I think you didn't listen to any of his responses karynnj Nov 2018 #2
No, I haven't had a chance to listen politicasista Dec 2018 #3
Interesting Discussion OldBayKababs Dec 2018 #4
FUCK donald rump and all of the GOP Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #5

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
1. He seems like a smart person,
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:19 PM
Nov 2018

However, talking about 2020 (or not ruling it out) is not helping him much. It only brings out hate and/or disagreements from three sides of the aisle.

1. The Anti-Kerry sentiment among Dems, Liberals, Progressives
2. The GOP /Trump crowd
3. The people that genuinely like and respect him that think this is a bad idea

Before people will say that HRC, Biden, Sanders, Warren, etc get this too (though Biden and HRC seem tolerable because of the popular vote win and their relationship with Obama), Kerry needs to go the Gore route and focus on climate change and the environment.

He is already a respected statesman, and he (and the others above) under pressure to step aside and embrace the new faces of the Democratic Party.


Just some 2 cents

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
2. I think you didn't listen to any of his responses
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:59 PM
Nov 2018

Before the election, he immediately diverted talk to 2018. Since then, in all of his comments, he has pointed out things he is NOT doing. Things like going to certain states. At yesterday's Harvard event, he specically spoke of looking at those running - referencing his endorsement of Obama. https://iop.harvard.edu/forum/conversation-john-kerry Note that in his comments, he speaks of "
being ready to pass the tourch."

When he says, "he has not done the things one does if running" AND we are at this point in the cycle, he is absolutely not gearing up for a run. (In fact -- try this - google HillaryClinton.com, JoeBiden.com and JohnKerry.com -- one of these is different than the others. In 2005/2006, Kerry used his website and in 2006 even had a moderated blog. Now ... nothing. Not to mention, he never INITIATES the conversation on running. I assume it is likely flattering to be asked about it.

However, many times the question is phrased something like - "given your activism, your passion to right the country, and your commitment to service, would you consider running. THAT is the type of frame that causes him to say "he hadn't ruled out the idea -- then quickly adding he hadn't ruled it in." What is clear is that there is not yet a candidate that he is ready to get behind. What he speaks of is looking for someone with REAL committments on climate change and a better, more peaceful world. He did say that Biden is good on these issues. (I remember in early 2007, Teresa and John Kerry on their book tour after he was not running making a similar comment on wanting to back a candidate stronger on fighting climate change -- implying that could secide who he supported.)

I think there is at least as much anti HRC AND anti Sanders sentiment here at DU. I see very little anti Kerry hatred - even among people not wanting him to run. (There is a big difference between not favoring someone to run and being against him.) I think the general opinion of Kerry was that he was an outstanding Secretary of State - I would argue the best in over 50 years.

As to what he is doing, he has done a lot on climate change and the environment. Recently, he went to the 5th annual Our Oceans conference in Indonesia. This was something he started as Secretary. The first (2014) and the third (2016) were in the US, the others in Chile, Malta and Indonesia. This international effort has done a lot to set uyp marine reserves and to work to improve the health of the oceans. (In this years, he was able to help Vietnam with sustainable shrimping which Vietnam announced.)

In addition, he is working with students at Yale. The main thing he has been doing is a book tour for his very well written book. In the early US part, he chose to speak of the need to be politically active and to vote ... and spoke of the importance of the midterms.

OldBayKababs

(1 post)
4. Interesting Discussion
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 06:54 PM
Dec 2018

However, the fact remains that we have engaged in far too many unauthorized wars. Our constitutional safeguards have been weakened over the past two decades in the name of national security and combating terrorism, however we are now actively involved in over a dozen conflicts at any given time without the American people even knowing what their soldiers are doing in the field in their name, as well as in the name of the flag & constitution.

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