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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 08:30 AM Nov 2013

A woman who fantasizes about rape doesn't want to be raped, but a man that does, wants to rape?

Women having rape fantasies doesn't make them really want to be raped.

Women watching rape porn doesn't make them want to be raped.

Women watching rape porn in which women rape MEN doesn't make them want to do that either.

But somehow, all that cause and effect stuff is out the window when we talk about men. Suddenly we're supposed to believe that men having watching rape porn will make them want to rape.

How the fuck does THAT work?

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A woman who fantasizes about rape doesn't want to be raped, but a man that does, wants to rape? (Original Post) Bonobo Nov 2013 OP
It's simple really Major Nikon Nov 2013 #1
Can't be. They don't believe in ego-psych. Remember? nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #2
IMO: It's a delusional way of twisting reality. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #3
You can only hope libodem Nov 2013 #4
Courting while watching football is as much fun as eating chocolate. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #6
???? Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #5
In the porn rape threads Bonobo Nov 2013 #7
if someone watches or engages in furry porn does that make them go out and molest animals loli phabay Nov 2013 #8
Hmmmm, I think its called "FM" HuskiesHowls Nov 2013 #9
Evidently assertions don't have to be supported if they are made under the guise of protecting women Major Nikon Nov 2013 #10
Apparently women's rape fantasies are not really about rape, but men's Bonobo Nov 2013 #11
Do roller coasters rrneck Nov 2013 #12
They operate under the assumption that all men are at least closet rapists. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #13

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
1. It's simple really
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 08:44 AM
Nov 2013

Men are simian beings which are subject to the chronic effects of erotoxins which inevitably turn them into porn-zombies, no longer able to differentiate between fantasy and reality. Studies have shown this conclusively.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
3. IMO: It's a delusional way of twisting reality.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 08:57 AM
Nov 2013

There are some women who really are man-haters. Those same women will lower a man's ability to make the correct choices to that of an animal in the rut.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
4. You can only hope
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:34 PM
Nov 2013

That if men behave like a moose in rut that they would choose to line up on opposing sides and run headlong into each others heads, knocking them out. Oop. I think I have football confused with courting.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
7. In the porn rape threads
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 07:16 PM
Nov 2013

Bainesbain repeatedly insists that watching rape porn makes men rape. But women that engage in rape fantasies do not want to be raped. See the logic issue?

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
8. if someone watches or engages in furry porn does that make them go out and molest animals
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 07:18 PM
Nov 2013

Iwonder if any research has been done on this.

HuskiesHowls

(711 posts)
9. Hmmmm, I think its called "FM"
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:30 AM
Nov 2013

Kinda like integrated circuits, and anything else that you don't understand...

F...ing Magic

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
10. Evidently assertions don't have to be supported if they are made under the guise of protecting women
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 12:34 PM
Nov 2013

Because obviously if you don't agree, you must be a misogynist. Why so many fall for this nutty reasoning is beyond me. I've seen grammar school kids make better arguments.

The effects of pornography, whether violent or non-violent, on sexual aggression have been debated for decades. The current review examines evidence about the influence of pornography on sexual aggression in correlational and experimental studies and in real world violent crime data. Evidence for a causal relationship between exposure to pornography and sexual aggression is slim and may, at certain times, have been exaggerated by politicians, pressure groups and some social scientists. Some of the debate has focused on violent pornography, but evidence of any negative effects is inconsistent, and violent pornography is comparatively rare in the real world. Victimization rates for rape in the United States demonstrate an inverse relationship between pornography consumption and rape rates. Data from other nations have suggested similar relationships. Although these data cannot be used to determine that pornography has a cathartic effect on rape behavior, combined with the weak evidence in support of negative causal hypotheses from the scientific literature, it is concluded that it is time to discard the hypothesis that pornography contributes to increased sexual assault behavior.
(emphasis mine)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178909000445

To suppress free speech in the name of protecting women is dangerous and wrong
-- Betty Friedan

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
11. Apparently women's rape fantasies are not really about rape, but men's
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 11:03 AM
Nov 2013

rape fantasies really are...or something.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
12. Do roller coasters
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 12:51 PM
Nov 2013

and other thrill rides cause suicide? Is there a precipitous increase in suicide from skydivers or mountain climbers? People take every kind of human experience to the edge of the envelope one way or another. Sex is no different.

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