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more on anti-porn hero Judith Reisman's anti choice, pro religious right agenda (Original Post) Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 OP
This part I really don't get: 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #1
It's a scam that funnels federal dollars to churches Major Nikon Aug 2012 #3
Great that they can get tax money without having to actually PAY taxes, even. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #6
Any church that receives federal funds ought to be under federal supervision 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #7
You win the thread. hifiguy Aug 2012 #9
Judith Riesman on "the red queen and the grand scheme" Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #2
More Friends of Reisman: "Satanism, Sex Crimes, And Consequences" Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #5
It was helpful that the editor of World Net Daily provided such a great recommendation. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #8
Abstinence only education is like . . . caseymoz Aug 2012 #10
Not-driving is the safest kind of driving 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #11
Only reason why people can't . . . caseymoz Aug 2012 #12
Reuters: Republicans Call For Crackdown On Pornography In 2012 Platform Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #13
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
1. This part I really don't get:
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:21 PM
Aug 2012
Later in the evening, conference attendees were addressed on a video link-up by Bush, who pledged to double federal funding for abstinence-only programs – $168 million is allocated for 2005 – and stated, "Through your educational programs, you reach out to countless young people to give them the support they need to make that responsible choice." Finally, Reisman was honored with an "Abstie Lifetime Achievement Award."


How can abstinence education cost that much?

Does it really cost 168 million to have each sex-ed teacher say "look, the best way not to get STDs or pregnant is not to have sex. If you can do that, great. If not . . . " and then move on to the real education.

It's like spending hundreds of millions on public health by simply telling them not to get sick. How? Where is that money going?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
3. It's a scam that funnels federal dollars to churches
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:51 PM
Aug 2012

HRSA doles out the money via block grants to "community organizations" (church based, naturally) that each these programs.

There have been a few members of congress that have done a great job of ferreting out this fraud, but their efforts have been mostly for nothing. Even Obama supports the continued funding of these fraudulent schemes. It's basically paying the conservative Christian community to teach our children complete and utter bullshit about reproductive health that in most cases is highly misogynistic.

Here is some direct examples of the shit your tax dollars are helping spread:

One curriculum says that “the popular claim that ‘condoms help prevent the spread of STDs,’ is not supported by the data”; another states that “n heterosexual sex, condoms fail to prevent HIV approximately 31% of the time”; and another teaches that a pregnancy occurs one out of every seven times that couples use condoms. These erroneous statements are presented as proven scientific facts.


One curriculum states that 5% to 10% of women who have legal abortions will become sterile; that “[p]remature birth, a major cause of mental retardation, is increased following the abortion of a first pregnancy”; and that “[t]ubal and cervical pregnancies are increased following abortions.” In fact, these risks do not rise after the procedure used in most abortions in the United States.


Many of the curricula present as scientific fact the religious view that life begins at conception. For example, one lesson states: “Conception, also known as fertilization, occurs when one sperm unites with one egg in the upper third of the fallopian tube. This is when life begins.” Another curriculum calls a 43-day-old fetus a “thinking person.”


One curriculum teaches that women need “financial support,” while men need “admiration.” Another instructs: “Women gauge their happiness and judge their success on their relationships. Men’s happiness and success hinge on their accomplishments.”


http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/documents/20041201102153-50247.pdf



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. Great that they can get tax money without having to actually PAY taxes, even.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:11 AM
Aug 2012

What an awesome gig! God Truly does work in mysterious ways!

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
7. Any church that receives federal funds ought to be under federal supervision
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:20 AM
Aug 2012

and subject to federal taxes.

I'm all for the separation of church and state (both manage to corrupt each other when they cooperate) but it needs to be a two-way street.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. More Friends of Reisman: "Satanism, Sex Crimes, And Consequences"
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:39 AM
Aug 2012

They even got the illuminati in there! This is really ground-breaking, cutting edge stuff!

http://www.texemarrs.com/081998/cricon.htm

Was it not Albert Kinsey, agent of the Illuminati and its Grand Scheme, who began this wicked era of sexual confusion and chaos? Why were he and his pedophile ring of child molesting collaborators allowed to go unpunished? Why have their sins been hidden from view for so long? And why has the courageous Dr. Judith Reisman become so hated and despised by the academic world since she first came out with her eye-opening revelations about the sex crimes committed by this elite group of international conspirators?


Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #4)

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
10. Abstinence only education is like . . .
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:00 PM
Aug 2012

. . . a driver's safety course that teaches you not to drive and only that. How much money would you pay for it?

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
12. Only reason why people can't . . .
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:54 AM
Aug 2012

. . . immediately see the idiocy behind abstinence-only eduction is because it's sex. Give the same approach to almost anything else that has safety issues and consequences and you can see how dumb the whole idea is.

When they tell adolescents to just not have sex, but choose other activity, it's like the real life version of that old joke: "What's the difference between a hamburger and a blow job?" On some level, mentally healthy people with normal intelligence know that one can't be replaced with the other. They both fulfill different needs, and contain different pleasures. Adults might pretend you can for the sake of keeping teens sinless and out of trouble. Teenagers might try to go along with it because they're modeling themselves on adults (or their model of an adult), and maybe they're still in their sexual latency and don't understand the drives they're about to face, but studies are showing that they're left ill-prepared for having sex, with the exact consequences that abstinence-only was supposed to avoid.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. Reuters: Republicans Call For Crackdown On Pornography In 2012 Platform
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:30 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/28/uk-usa-campaign-porn-idUSLNE87R00520120828

"It's a growing problem for men in their 20s," Trueman said. "It's changed the way their brain maps have developed. This is the way they get sexually excited."


(bold added)

I smell the influence of our old friend!
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