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marmar

(77,077 posts)
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 02:55 PM Jul 2012

U.S. retail sales fall for 3rd straight month


from the LA Times:



Washington

Retail sales fell in June for the third straight month, knocking down economic growth projections for the second quarter and dimming the outlook for hiring in the near term.

The 0.5% drop from May was broad-based; consumers pulled back on spending for cars, electronics, furniture, building materials and other goods, the Commerce Department reported Monday.

The report surprised analysts, who were expecting a small increase in retail sales after two prior months of declines. It was the first time since the fall of 2008, when the recession was in full bloom, that retail sales fell three consecutive months.

Consumer spending, which accounts for about 70% of the American economy, has weakened amid persistent worries about Europe's debt crisis, slumping job growth at home and uncertainties about taxes and fiscal spending cuts. ................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-retail-sales-20120716,0,6550178.story



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U.S. retail sales fall for 3rd straight month (Original Post) marmar Jul 2012 OP
Retail sales for April, May, June are up 4.7% over the same period of 2011 DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #1
April -0.5%, May -0.2%, June -0.5% girl gone mad Jul 2012 #2
The numbers you posted are relative to the month before. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #3
let me fix that for you Po_d Mainiac Jul 2012 #4
This should make the overall picture more clear! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #5
Adjusted for inflation and population growth, they are still well below 2008 levels. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #6
Your statement doesn't reflect the graph you posted. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #7
Remedial graph reading 101: girl gone mad Jul 2012 #8
My appology. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #9
Deflation, the coming attraction? nt mother earth Jul 2012 #10

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
1. Retail sales for April, May, June are up 4.7% over the same period of 2011
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jul 2012

Although sales have fallen for 3 straight months, they are still up from the second quarter of 2011.



http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/07/16/u-s-economy-appears-weaker-as-retail-sales-slump/

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
2. April -0.5%, May -0.2%, June -0.5%
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 01:25 AM
Jul 2012

No biggie. it's not like 70% of our economy is related to consumer spending and we are already struggling to create jobs or anything.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
3. The numbers you posted are relative to the month before.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 02:56 AM
Jul 2012

I posted the numbers relative to the same period last year, +4.7%.
The point is, the small reduction in retail sales over the past 3 months is not as bad as it seems when you understand that they are much better than the same period last year. It is not uncommon for retail sales to fall during the summer months.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
7. Your statement doesn't reflect the graph you posted.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:28 AM
Jul 2012

The graph you posted which shows retail sales adjusted for inflation, shows the most recent numbers equal with 2008, not well below 2008 levels.

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
8. Remedial graph reading 101:
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jul 2012


The blue line is currently well below where it was in at the start of the recession in 2008 (the shaded grey bar on the right).

~$176 billion is less than ~$186 billion.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
9. My appology.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:08 AM
Jul 2012

I see which chart you were pointing to now, I was looking at the chart above this one which showed adjustment for inflation and population growth separately.

I don't appreciate your sarcastic attitude, that's just rude.

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