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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:52 AM Oct 2021

I bought my kids dinner -- and saw firsthand how overdraft fees punish the poor

Perspective: I bought my kids dinner — and saw firsthand how overdraft fees punish the poor



Outlook • Perspective

I bought my kids dinner — and saw firsthand how overdraft fees punish the poor

By Bobbi Dempsey
Bobbi Dempsey is a reporting fellow at the Economic Hardship Reporting Project.
Yesterday at 6:00 a.m. EDT

Like many people who are or have ever been poor, I have plenty of stories about the costly and embarrassing ramifications of overdraft fees. Once, a $5 can of baby formula triggered a cascade of fees and penalties so substantial that it ended up costing me hundreds of dollars by the time I was finally able to get my account back in the positive.

Another time, I was thrilled to receive a $200 freelance payment in the mail and rushed to deposit it into my checking account — which at that point had a balance of around $3. In my excitement, I failed to realize that my bank would hold the check for three business days before it “cleared” and was officially credited. On my way home from the bank, I treated my kids to Happy Meals. The $10 transaction went through but sent my account into the negative, causing me to incur more than $100 in fees before I knew what had happened.

Low-income people suffer the consequences of overdraft fees more than those who are financially comfortable — by a huge margin. A study by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) found that while only 9 percent of checking accounts are considered frequent overdrafters, they incur almost 80 percent of all overdraft fees. These fees, which typically run $35 or more, are often imposed in multiple per-transaction batches. Coupled with daily negative-balance fees, they disproportionately hit those who can least afford them. The CFPB study revealed that the typical frequent overdrafter has an average end-of-day balance of less than $350, compared with an average balance of more than $1,550 for customers who aren’t overdrafters.

Overdraft fees seem almost intentionally designed to keep the poor trapped in poverty. Once the cycle of overdraft fees begins — often initiating a rapid downward spiral of overlapping accumulating fees and daily charges — you’re trapped in a hole that is difficult, and expensive, to get out of. This seems especially cruel when you are already starting out with a huge financial disadvantage. According to the CFPB study, consumers who overdraft frequently have median credit scores of less than 600, and roughly 20 percent of frequent overdrafters do not have a credit score at all.

Banks aren’t exactly motivated to help these financially struggling consumers, though, when overdraft fees are a steady source of significant revenue. Banks charged customers more than $12 billion in overdraft and related fees last year, according to the FinHealth Spend Report 2021, produced by the Financial Health Network — and the bulk of those fees were incurred by people categorized as “Financially Coping” or “Financially Vulnerable.”

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By Bobbi Dempsey
Bobbi Dempsey is a reporting fellow at the Economic Hardship Reporting Project. Twitter https://twitter.com/bobbidempsey
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hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
1. Late fees too--even for less than a day with utility & cell phone companies.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:57 AM
Oct 2021

I'm a big believer in at least short-term grace periods and I think state regulators should require them. It takes very little for the poorest or even those facing short-term hardships to need a couple of days "grace," yet apparently these companies charge the late fees even when notified ahead of time and after negotiating a date for a short-delay" in payment.

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
5. I have a line of credit that stops all overdraft problems
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:16 AM
Oct 2021

I’m beyond needing it but it came in handy in the 90’s.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
7. Yes, of course, but those who are most targeted frequently can't even qualify for a bank account.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:18 AM
Oct 2021

They pay the "exploitation" fees to pay bills at grocery stores and elsewhere or to purchase money orders or have to travel to offices to pay in cash or are sucked in by all the new apps that likewise take a fee (at least some of them).

And, again, the regulated utilities that should have latitude for the poorest among us can't even offer a few day's grace period for a late payment?

I guess it is hard for those of us who are more secure to realize the penalties that totally screw the poorest among us. But we need to.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
8. Years ago I had a revolving credit account attached to my checking account with Wells Fargo.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:39 AM
Oct 2021

The account was attached to my checking account so I didn't have to worry about overdraft fees. It would automatically transfer money from savings to cover any overdrafts. However, I accidently checked "principle only" when I made a $100 payment on my $200 revolving balance. Because of that, a couple of dollars of interest wasn't paid. The revolving account was suspended, my bills all hit my checking account & were returned. When it was all over, checking the wrong button cost me about $350. My local branch manager was like, "Too bad for you, sucker." I closed my account, which was quite substantial at the time, & went to a credit union. A couple of weeks later I got a call from Wells Fargo asking why I closed my account. When I told them what happened they said "You should have called the branch manager. They would have fixed that for you." Yeah right.

lark

(23,091 posts)
2. This is part of the reason I switched from banks to credit unions and my life got better.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:03 AM
Oct 2021

I hate banks and haven't used one in probably 30 years. Credit unions are by far, the more sane alternative IMO.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
4. It's only framed as a punishment to discourage overdrafting. But it what it is intentionally ...
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:14 AM
Oct 2021

... set up to be is a device to milk the poor. Those fines are only fees to have access to bank accounts, to allow banks to 'maximize profits' from this segment of their market.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
6. I never understood why our so called democracy allowed it.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:18 AM
Oct 2021

Here you have someone who doesn't have enough money, Sooooo you take more of his money away as punishment? It's like seeing a starving person with just a crust of bread and taking away that small crust because he's hungry.

I use to always have overdraft fees. Mostly because I was a kid that didn't balance my check book regularly. The excessive fees and costs so traumatized me that I always keep a very large chunk of money in my checking account so it never happens again. I haven't had problems with that in over 50 years and yet I'm still planning for it.

Shouldn't we the people be able to decide if we want this kind of financial system? Are we a country for every citizen or just the rich ones?

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
9. Yep. In my younger days, when I was was on a very tight budget
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:07 AM
Oct 2021

and had no cushion in my bank account, one of the three jobs I had cobbled together was teaching piano lessons. A great way to earn a little extra--unless the parent of two of your students, who's already a month behind in payments, gives you a check that bounces, which causes a couple checks that you wrote to bounce, and it snowballs after that.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
10. This is the kind of thing that has me paying cash for almost every day-to-day
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:11 AM
Oct 2021

expense. Like food.

If debit cards declined the transaction when it would be more than you have, it wouldn't be so bad.

When my son was first in college and got a local bank account and debit card, he didn't understand the need to pay attention to how much money he had in the bank, and got very underwater with bank fees. We finally got him straightened out, closed that account, and he's been good ever since.

How I manage my money involves taking a specific sum out at the beginning of the week. Some of it goes into envelopes labelled Clothes, Health & Well Being, Cat, Entertainment, and Miscellaneous. The rest goes into my wallet and is used mainly for groceries. I take money out of a specific envelope when doing or purchasing various things. If there is any money left over at the end of the week, it goes into a zippered pouch I consider Super Miscellaneous. This system works very well for me.

I do have a debit card and a Visa credit card, which I use for larger purchases, such as paying for the hotel I'm currently staying in. While debit cards certainly can be useful, always using them and never, ever paying with cash is, in my opinion, a huge mistake. Especially if, for instance, you just want to buy a pack of gum but the store has a three or five dollar minimum. So you get a few more things, spending several dollars more than you intended. It adds up.

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
11. The reason I stopped using Bank of America
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:06 AM
Oct 2021

They were fined for some of their tactics.
A lot of money is made off the poor.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,166 posts)
12. If it's possible, nearly everyone should move their accounts from the big banks to . . .
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:20 PM
Oct 2021

a local credit union. I had a cash flow problem about a half-dozen years ago and bounced a check. When I went to the manager of the branch and asked for mercy, she immediately reversed all of the overdraft charges.

Credit unions are generally much more customer-friendly than the big banks, which subscribe to the adage, "We don't care. We don't have to."

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