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NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:49 PM Jul 2012

Catch Phrases and Word Salad from a K-6 LAUSD school.



Witness these crushingly strained compositions that only a state educational grant writer could love, or comprehend, proudly flying on a banner.

The banner is above the steps of a Los Angeles Unified Elementary School, where the students are predominantly from non-English speaking homes.

56% English Language learners, 100% Free/reduced Federal Lunch Program, I wonder who is supposed to read these words at this K-6 school.





Do I really have to ask the question, "What the Fuck is Wrong with Schools??"

Oh, also, this is the school that was shut down temporarily following the discovery that a teacher was serving cookies topped with his own semen, and taking pictures of the kids eating them, and other stuff.

Here's the teacher, Mark Berndt:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/08/miramonte-school-scandal-_n_1262713.html

http://miramontees-lausd-ca.schoolloop.com/

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Catch Phrases and Word Salad from a K-6 LAUSD school. (Original Post) NYC_SKP Jul 2012 OP
Who writes mission and vision statements for KIDS?? proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #1
Little K-6ers walk under those banners every day and haven't a clue what they say or mean. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #3
I hear ya proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #4
We started that last year. mbperrin Jul 2012 #6
You end up using up all of your teaching space on the board proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #7
ALL stakeholders ? eppur_se_muova Jul 2012 #2
You see this crap on corporate vision and mission statements all the time eridani Jul 2012 #5
Bingo! Reader Rabbit Jul 2012 #8
This. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #10
Mindless, sickening, bureaucratic gibberish. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2012 #9
With only slight variation sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #11
Yep, catch phrases common to most every front office think tank waste of effort in education. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #13
The same corporatists who issued the mandate that schools must have a mission statement. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #15
Seeing it posted might be even more painful LWolf Jul 2012 #12
the requirement to have a mission statement comes from upper administration. and the idea HiPointDem Jul 2012 #14
Regardless of who hung the banners, that they hang there at all proved a broken system. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #16
education deformers mandated the banners. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #17
Prove it. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #18
feds = run by education deformers. all large districts = run by education deformers. ubiquitousness HiPointDem Jul 2012 #19
What's the alternative, home schooling? NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #20
you & margaret thatcher: tina. if you're in "education" i'm sure you don't need me to educate HiPointDem Jul 2012 #21
So your response after all the namecalling is that you have no interest. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #22
I've seen your posts. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #23
Yes, I certainly do challenge the lockstepper know-nothings, don't I? NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #24
"traditional shitty school teachers". you rebel you. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #25
Oh clever you. Fox news also loves to take words out of context. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #26

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
1. Who writes mission and vision statements for KIDS??
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jul 2012

LOL

Reminds me of when I was teaching 1st grade and they started that nonsense of writing objectives on the board. I reminded my principal that my students couldn't read them. She smiled and said "Oh, but you're not writing those up there for the kids."

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Little K-6ers walk under those banners every day and haven't a clue what they say or mean.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:09 PM
Jul 2012

The implications of this are manifest.

Basically, "what kids think or do doesn't matter", "we don't write things for kids", and "our decisions aren't about kids".

Who wrote these and who is supposed to be reading them?

Because is sure isn't the children or the parents or, in fact, most of the stakeholders.

Makes me sad.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
4. I hear ya
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:14 PM
Jul 2012

We have them in my school too. Big ones in the main hall and smaller versions in every classroom. Board policy.

But this is really nothing new.

We don't do much FOR the kids. Surely you know that.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
6. We started that last year.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:30 AM
Jul 2012

THREE objectives for every lesson and every prep AND language objectives for ESL for each prep, too.

I have one whiteboard and three preps. After all that, I have a 24" x 36" space to actually use.

Those written items are all that are checked on the random five minute walkthroughs.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
7. You end up using up all of your teaching space on the board
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:15 AM
Jul 2012

One year, I left the same objectives up and never changed them. No one said a thing. LOL

eridani

(51,907 posts)
5. You see this crap on corporate vision and mission statements all the time
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:16 PM
Jul 2012

This is what you get when you corporatize schools.

Reader Rabbit

(2,621 posts)
8. Bingo!
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:33 PM
Jul 2012

Basically, the main change I've noticed since the drive to run schools "more like a business" is that Dilbert comic strips are now depressingly relevant to public education.

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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
9. Mindless, sickening, bureaucratic gibberish.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:11 PM
Jul 2012

The inescapable consequence of the invasion of education by politics and $$$.

The insane teacher is icing on the....err.r.... never mind.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
11. With only slight variation
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:39 PM
Jul 2012

in phrasing, every public school in America now has virtually the same statement hanging on the walls. I don't know who manufactures this shit, but it ain't English majors.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. Yep, catch phrases common to most every front office think tank waste of effort in education.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:49 PM
Jul 2012

And nobody to call them on it, to say, "Hey, do you think a fucking kid or parent even knows WTF you're talking about? Who IS your audience, who ARE your clients in this?"

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
15. The same corporatists who issued the mandate that schools must have a mission statement.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:18 AM
Jul 2012

It comes from the corporate world and the corporate mindset; those mission statements are the visible symbol of the invasion of those people into public schooling.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
12. Seeing it posted might be even more painful
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:12 PM
Jul 2012

than the dysfunctional meetings that create those statements.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
14. the requirement to have a mission statement comes from upper administration. and the idea
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:16 AM
Jul 2012

of "mission statements" comes from the corporate world. which is where more and more school administrators come from.

which is where the superintendent of lausd comes from: Education deformer John Deasy, Broad Superintendent's Academy 2006, brainchild of education deformer and real estate/insurance magnate Eli Broad.

Previously, Deasy served as deputy director of education for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and before that as superintendent of Prince George’s County Public Schools in Maryland. Before joining Prince George’s County Public Schools, Deasy served as superintendent of the Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District in California, a district with 12,800 students and 16 schools. During his tenure, Deasy led district-wide reforms in administrator and teacher evaluation models, pay-for-performance, staff development, leadership training, development of a data-driven system for decision-making and implementation of research-based whole school reform initiatives.


You think you're criticising educators, but you're criticising education deformers. LAUSD is in the pocket of the Gates-Broad crowd and has been for some time.


On Thursday, February 9, 2012 two large, angry groups — in separate parts of Los Angeles — protested against LAUSD, for two different reasons. At Miramonte Elementary School, around a hundred angry parents and students protested the transfer of the entire staff — teachers, janitors, everybody — to a new school still under construction, while an entirely new staff was brought in, at a reported cost of $5.7 million. The parents and students complained of the disruptive effects of this radical response to child abuse allegations against two teachers. Meanwhile, outside LAUSD Headquarters at 333 S. Beaudry Avenue in Los Angeles, over two thousand angry teachers and adult students protested the threatened elimination of LAUSD’s adult and career education programs, which serve over 300,000 students.

Both demonstrations protested disruption — one disruption costing the cash-strapped district close to $6 million, the other disruption ostensibly intended to save the district money. Saving money, spending money… maybe they were beside the point. Maybe the real goal was the disruption itself.

It seems ludicrous to even suggest that the superintendent of a large public school system would purposely cause disruption in the school district he or she had been chosen to run. Ludicrous, that is, until one looks into the background of LAUSD Superintendent Dr. John Deasy, a graduate of the Broad Superintendents Academy.


http://johnsroom.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/lausds-dark-lord-dr-john-deasy/


 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
16. Regardless of who hung the banners, that they hang there at all proved a broken system.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:37 AM
Jul 2012

The pedophile teacher AT that school is just icing on the cake.

Broken School.

I'd have my kids as far away as humanly possible from and school that was part of that system.

I wouldn't have time to see them heal themselves.

It's a shame really, it makes all schools and teachers look bad when we all know that they aren't all bad.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
18. Prove it.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jul 2012

That's two replies in one hour from you using the "education deformers" phrase.

What is that from, why do you seem to hate the idea of progressive education and improved schools?

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
19. feds = run by education deformers. all large districts = run by education deformers. ubiquitousness
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jul 2012

of the mission statement = central mandate.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
20. What's the alternative, home schooling?
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jul 2012

Or just smaller or one-school districts?

I agree with your subject line, by the way.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
21. you & margaret thatcher: tina. if you're in "education" i'm sure you don't need me to educate
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:23 PM
Jul 2012

you. & having seen your anti-public school/teacher-bashing up close, i have no interest.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
22. So your response after all the namecalling is that you have no interest.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:05 PM
Jul 2012

Brilliant.

You troll around after me, a teacher, calling me names, and then go about backing off when I actually tell you I agree and wonder what your solutions are, solutions that can happen this year in the real world.

Weak.

I don't know but it sounds like noises from a disruptor, an agitator, someone actually hoping for the collapse of education.

Unless you are interested after all.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
24. Yes, I certainly do challenge the lockstepper know-nothings, don't I?
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jul 2012

That's what comes from having actual experience in the field and not being dependent the bullshit found on worthless blogs and written by self-proclaimed discussion board "experts" in education.

Most of the bullshit is on a couple of specific blogs that I follow, and some of them are linked to OPs on DU.

Still others are Kos diarists or posting at some other places where tombstoned DU members like to post.

Most of these people hate Obama and want to see a collapse of the Democratic Party.

I don't know about you, I'm referring to other people mostly at other sites.

But there are shades of it here, for sure.

My POV is actually more representative of DU as a whole.

The namecallers are a vocal few here.

I know.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
25. "traditional shitty school teachers". you rebel you.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jul 2012

"If public schools don't get their fucking shit together, and soon, there will be a hell of a lot more traditional shitty school teachers out of work."

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
26. Oh clever you. Fox news also loves to take words out of context.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:37 PM
Jul 2012

But that's the M.O. of people weak on the intellectual argument side.

Anyone who cares to check will find that I praise great teachers.

Further, anyone knows that I'm not calling all or even most traditional school teachers shitty.

And anyone who thinks there aren't any shitty teachers out there, public and private, isn't really working in the real world.

Again, you have no useful remarks, only cheap shots and names to call me.

But I do like the kicks to the OP because those banners that actual people see everyday are disgusting, and probably still there.

Thank you.

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