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Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:32 PM

Education Departmentís obsession with test scores deepens

Apparently itís not enough for the Obama administration that standardized test scores are now used to evaluate students, schools, teachers and principals. In a new display of its obsession with test scores, the Education Department is embarking on a study to determine which parts of clinical teacher training lead to higher average test scores
Education Secretary Arne Duncan speaks at the U.S. Conference of Mayors winter meeting luncheon in Washington, last month. (Cliff Owen) among the teachersí students.

This is explained in a notice placed in the Federal Register:

ďTeachers who have experienced certain types of clinical practice features and who have completed those features are hypothesized to produce higher average student test scores than teachers who have not done so. Using a randomized controlled trial, students will be randomly assigned to a pair of teachers in the same school and grade level, one of whom will have experienced the type of clinical practice of interest (Ďtreatmentí) while the other will not have experienced the feature (Ďcontrolí). Average test scores of the two groups will then be compared.Ē

The Education Departmentís new study takes as fact the notion that standardized test scores tell us something important about how well a teacher does his or her job. They donít, assessment experts say (over and over), but why let the facts get in the way?

more . . . http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/education-departments-obsession-with-test-scores-deepens/2012/02/06/gIQAP7yuyQ_blog.html

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proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 OP
bluestateguy Feb 2012 #1
proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #2
bluestateguy Feb 2012 #3
proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #5
msongs Feb 2012 #4
immoderate Feb 2012 #6
Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #7
knitter4democracy Feb 2012 #8
L. Coyote Feb 2012 #9
knitter4democracy Feb 2012 #11
MichiganVote Feb 2012 #10
sulphurdunn Feb 2012 #12
Name removed Feb 2018 #13

Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:44 PM

1. The Education Department should be abolished

Too much federal meddling.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:50 PM

2. We need the DOE

but it needs to be scaled back.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:16 PM

3. It doesn't work that way

As soon as you create a federal agency, they have an institutional interest in meddling. In part because they need to justify their existence.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:45 PM

5. The DOE oversees Head Start, Title I, IDEA and several other federal programs.

And they enforce civil rights regulations as they apply to education.

We aren't ready to give any of that up.

We need the DOE.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:16 PM

4. want higher scores? OPEN book tests. that really enhances learning boys and girls because....

you get a question, you search your knowledge for as much as you know already, then look up additional information to find a great answer.

THAT is true learning.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 05:37 PM

6. They're teaching teachers how to teach to the test?

 

Pretty nuts.


--imm

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:12 PM

7. My obsession with dumping Duncan is deepening.

If I wasn't witnessing all this happening in our lifetimes, I would think it was satire.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 08:23 PM

8. Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, that's amazingly stupid!

A study starting from a biased place. How shocking.

I swear, someone is seriously benefiting from all this testing crap, and it sure as heck isn't teachers or students.

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Response to knitter4democracy (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 09:50 PM

9. Testing is a very profitable business, and profit makers have their eyes on all of education.

Charter schools are also for-profit enterprises, and the perception of failing public schools is in their financial interest.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:37 PM

11. Not all charters are for-profit.

I worked for one last year that was managed by the local school district (it's their alternative high school that was spun off as a semi-independent charter several years back). I think that's a great model, personally, but there are for-profit companies out there trying to run charters, and that's just a nightmare.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 10:42 PM

10. Yes well the billionaires who give oh so much shit about poor kids want to be sure

 

that the needle they supposedly must pass thru at death is a little bit larger because they concern themselves with..uh..data.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 10:08 PM

12. I decided to use standardized test scores

 

to assess the state of the Union. The data confirms that we rank near the bottom of developed republics. I think I might start using 3rd grade reading scores to determine which investment bankers to throw into prison.

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