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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:32 PM Feb 2012

Education Department’s obsession with test scores deepens

Apparently it’s not enough for the Obama administration that standardized test scores are now used to evaluate students, schools, teachers and principals. In a new display of its obsession with test scores, the Education Department is embarking on a study to determine which parts of clinical teacher training lead to higher average test scores
Education Secretary Arne Duncan speaks at the U.S. Conference of Mayors winter meeting luncheon in Washington, last month. (Cliff Owen) among the teachers’ students.

This is explained in a notice placed in the Federal Register:

“Teachers who have experienced certain types of clinical practice features and who have completed those features are hypothesized to produce higher average student test scores than teachers who have not done so. Using a randomized controlled trial, students will be randomly assigned to a pair of teachers in the same school and grade level, one of whom will have experienced the type of clinical practice of interest (‘treatment’) while the other will not have experienced the feature (‘control’). Average test scores of the two groups will then be compared.”

The Education Department’s new study takes as fact the notion that standardized test scores tell us something important about how well a teacher does his or her job. They don’t, assessment experts say (over and over), but why let the facts get in the way?

more . . . http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/education-departments-obsession-with-test-scores-deepens/2012/02/06/gIQAP7yuyQ_blog.html

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Education Department’s obsession with test scores deepens (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 OP
The Education Department should be abolished bluestateguy Feb 2012 #1
We need the DOE proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #2
It doesn't work that way bluestateguy Feb 2012 #3
The DOE oversees Head Start, Title I, IDEA and several other federal programs. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #5
want higher scores? OPEN book tests. that really enhances learning boys and girls because.... msongs Feb 2012 #4
They're teaching teachers how to teach to the test? immoderate Feb 2012 #6
My obsession with dumping Duncan is deepening. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #7
Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, that's amazingly stupid! knitter4democracy Feb 2012 #8
Testing is a very profitable business, and profit makers have their eyes on all of education. L. Coyote Feb 2012 #9
Not all charters are for-profit. knitter4democracy Feb 2012 #11
Yes well the billionaires who give oh so much shit about poor kids want to be sure MichiganVote Feb 2012 #10
I decided to use standardized test scores sulphurdunn Feb 2012 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #13

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. It doesn't work that way
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:16 PM
Feb 2012

As soon as you create a federal agency, they have an institutional interest in meddling. In part because they need to justify their existence.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
5. The DOE oversees Head Start, Title I, IDEA and several other federal programs.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

And they enforce civil rights regulations as they apply to education.

We aren't ready to give any of that up.

We need the DOE.

msongs

(67,361 posts)
4. want higher scores? OPEN book tests. that really enhances learning boys and girls because....
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:16 PM
Feb 2012

you get a question, you search your knowledge for as much as you know already, then look up additional information to find a great answer.

THAT is true learning.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
7. My obsession with dumping Duncan is deepening.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:12 PM
Feb 2012

If I wasn't witnessing all this happening in our lifetimes, I would think it was satire.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
8. Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, that's amazingly stupid!
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 08:23 PM
Feb 2012

A study starting from a biased place. How shocking.

I swear, someone is seriously benefiting from all this testing crap, and it sure as heck isn't teachers or students.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. Testing is a very profitable business, and profit makers have their eyes on all of education.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 09:50 PM
Feb 2012

Charter schools are also for-profit enterprises, and the perception of failing public schools is in their financial interest.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
11. Not all charters are for-profit.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:37 PM
Feb 2012

I worked for one last year that was managed by the local school district (it's their alternative high school that was spun off as a semi-independent charter several years back). I think that's a great model, personally, but there are for-profit companies out there trying to run charters, and that's just a nightmare.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
10. Yes well the billionaires who give oh so much shit about poor kids want to be sure
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 10:42 PM
Feb 2012

that the needle they supposedly must pass thru at death is a little bit larger because they concern themselves with..uh..data.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
12. I decided to use standardized test scores
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 10:08 PM
Feb 2012

to assess the state of the Union. The data confirms that we rank near the bottom of developed republics. I think I might start using 3rd grade reading scores to determine which investment bankers to throw into prison.

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