Tue Jul 15, 2014, 03:26 AM

MICHAEL GOVE IS OUT AS BRITISH EDUCATION SECRETARY!!!

Yay!

Problem is who will replace him; but I can't imagine that it could be worse. Gove is the worst we've had since Sir Keith Joseph.

I know this won't be of direct relevance to most of you, but since you have Education Secretary trouble too, I though you might like to know.

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MICHAEL GOVE IS OUT AS BRITISH EDUCATION SECRETARY!!! (Original post)	LeftishBrit	Jul 2014	OP
Michael Gove moved to chief whip in cabinet reshuffle	dipsydoodle	Jul 2014	#1
We don't have "Education Secretary trouble" so much as "President of the United States trouble".	Smarmie Doofus	Jul 2014	#2
I think it's more that Cameron realizes that there's an election in 10 months' time	LeftishBrit	Jul 2014	#3
One of the advantages of the parliamentary system, imo.	Smarmie Doofus	Jul 2014	#4
Interesting that his policies are almost identical to Duncan's and Gove is a Tory.	Starry Messenger	Jul 2014	#5
Interesting indeed	LeftishBrit	Jul 2014	#7
Wish we could lose ours. Hope you are not getting worse than you lost	AllyCat	Jul 2014	#6
Duncan and Gove, 2 of a kind.	madfloridian	Jul 2014	#8
+1	lunasun	Jul 2014	#9

Response to LeftishBrit (Original post)

Tue Jul 15, 2014, 03:37 AM

dipsydoodle (42,239 posts)

1. Michael Gove moved to chief whip in cabinet reshuffle

He has been replaced by Treasury minister Nicky Morgan, as Mr Cameron promotes more women into top jobs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28302487

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Tue Jul 15, 2014, 03:50 AM

Smarmie Doofus (14,498 posts)

2. We don't have "Education Secretary trouble" so much as "President of the United States trouble".

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I know this won't be of direct relevance to most of you, but since you have Education Secretary trouble too, I though you might like to know.>>>>>

But in either case... we have trouble. So, yes, thanks. And we WOULD like to know.

What's your take: was Gove recognized as a floperoo? At long last?

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Tue Jul 15, 2014, 04:13 AM

LeftishBrit (39,637 posts)

3. I think it's more that Cameron realizes that there's an election in 10 months' time

And is therefore sacking or moving some of his more unpopular ministers (Gove will now be Chief Whip, which somehow sounds appropriate the way he ran Education). Also the party is becoming increasingly unpopular with women voters, so he is appointing more women ministers, such as Nicky Morgan here.

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Tue Jul 15, 2014, 04:20 AM

Smarmie Doofus (14,498 posts)

4. One of the advantages of the parliamentary system, imo.

That wouldn't and couldn't happen here.

Ask 10 adults on the street here "Who is the United States Secretary of Education?" and 9 and 1/2 will not be able to identify him.

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Tue Jul 15, 2014, 05:40 AM

Starry Messenger (32,326 posts)

5. Interesting that his policies are almost identical to Duncan's and Gove is a Tory.

At least Gove is the correct party for his ideology, over here we have to pretend Duncan is a liberal.

Anyone know anything about the new person? And does anyone think this reshuffle was a result of the huge public sector demonstration on the 10th?

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:10 AM

LeftishBrit (39,637 posts)

7. Interesting indeed

Though under Blair we had Education Secretaries David Blunkett and Charles Clarke, who were to the right of some Tories (though still to the left of Gove).

I don't think that the reshuffle has anything to do with the public sector strike - it had probably been planned for a while. Overall, the Cabinet's political balance has if anything been moved to the Right, even though Education is probably an improvement.

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Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:10 AM

AllyCat (12,210 posts)