HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Topics » Economy & Education » Education (Group) » Teacher fired protecting ...

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:12 AM

Teacher fired protecting student from bullying - why due process is important.


Fountain Hills school board fires longtime elementary teacher, Pam Aister

A Fountain Hills elementary school teacher said she took a stand to protect a student and it ended up getting her fired.

Pam Aister said one of her fourth-grade students was being bullied with racist taunts last school year.

"He was called the n-word, monkey, and coon," Aister said of the unidentified student before a school board meeting Friday.

The incident happened in May. She said a group of students were surrounding the boy. She was afraid they were picking on him so she intervened.

Video and more:

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/fountain-hills/fountain-hills-school-board-fires-longtime-elementary-teacher-pam-aister

9 replies, 2853 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 9 replies Author Time Post
Reply Teacher fired protecting student from bullying - why due process is important. (Original post)
QED Sep 2014 OP
femmocrat Sep 2014 #1
QED Sep 2014 #2
cui bono Sep 2014 #3
elleng Sep 2014 #5
cui bono Sep 2014 #7
elleng Sep 2014 #8
Smarmie Doofus Sep 2014 #4
Trillo Sep 2014 #6
Sancho Sep 2014 #9

Response to QED (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:23 AM

1. Kids lie.

That is a shame that she was dismissed on the basis of a bunch of kids' recounts of the incident. Hope she has a legal case and gets her job back with full-pay.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to femmocrat (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:32 AM

2. This is what wealthy connected parents can do

and why those big bad teacher unions are so important.

I wonder if she belonged to the teacher union? If this incident happened at the end of last school year and she's dismissed now, I kind of doubt it would have had time to go through a due process with the union.

It's so sad.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to QED (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:39 PM

3. So they can't prove what the teacher said happened but they just take the word of the kids and fire

her???

Clearly they were out to get her for whatever reasons. Perhaps the board and most certainly the bullies parents enjoy racism. Where else would those kids have learned that that is appropriate behavior?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to cui bono (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:54 PM

5. ABSOLUTELY ridiculous!

Out to get her or not, the fact that they 'believe' some and not the other, in this 'he said/she said' situation, is another example of insanity in our education situation.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:09 PM

7. Especially since one of them is the teacher! n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to cui bono (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:19 PM

8. Right, as if she were not a reliable 'source.'

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to QED (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:41 PM

4. 24 years is one year short of pension eligibility in a lot of places.

 

Hmmmm.

Board fired her on the advice of its ( the board's) lawyer.


Hmm.


No mention of a union or due process being involved.


Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to QED (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:27 PM

6. I always wondered why teachers asserted they didn't hear the bullying

back in the 60s and 70s.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to QED (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:52 PM

9. A good example of why teachers need tenure, collective bargaining, and due process....

it's a myth that teachers cannot be fired. On the contrary, they are more often fired for politics and parental interference than real problems of bad teaching.

I'll bet this was a good teacher.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread