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Related: About this forumTrump's Border Wall Will Be Awful for the Environment
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603524/trumps-border-wall-will-be-awful-for-the-environment/[font face=Serif][font size=5]Trumps Border Wall Will Be Awful for the Environment[/font]
[font size=4]It will create millions of tons of carbon dioxide and cause ecological damagebut on the bright side, it may raise gas prices.[/font]
by Jamie Condliffe | January 27, 2017
[font size=3]Donald Trumps border wall doesnt make financial sense. But its also a disaster in terms of the environment.
Weve already shown that the wall could cost as much as $40 billion to build. But the materials required to build it would take their toll on the environment. A 1,000-mile wall that's 50 feet tall with 15 feet underground and one-foot thick would require 9.7 million cubic meters of concrete and 2.3 billion kilograms of (presumably American) steel.
According to figures from the Institute for Sustainable Energy and the Environment at University of Bath, there are about 380 kilograms of carbon dioxide emissions for every cubic meter of concrete poured. So the walls concrete could produce up to 3.7 million tons of CO₂. (Some of that will actually be absorbed by the concrete over time, but only slowly.)
Then, depending on the quantity of recycled metal within it, there are around 1.8 kilograms of carbon dioxide emissions embodied within a kilogram of steel. That means the steel would contribute a further 4.1 million metric tons of CO₂.
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[font size=4]It will create millions of tons of carbon dioxide and cause ecological damagebut on the bright side, it may raise gas prices.[/font]
by Jamie Condliffe | January 27, 2017
[font size=3]Donald Trumps border wall doesnt make financial sense. But its also a disaster in terms of the environment.
Weve already shown that the wall could cost as much as $40 billion to build. But the materials required to build it would take their toll on the environment. A 1,000-mile wall that's 50 feet tall with 15 feet underground and one-foot thick would require 9.7 million cubic meters of concrete and 2.3 billion kilograms of (presumably American) steel.
According to figures from the Institute for Sustainable Energy and the Environment at University of Bath, there are about 380 kilograms of carbon dioxide emissions for every cubic meter of concrete poured. So the walls concrete could produce up to 3.7 million tons of CO₂. (Some of that will actually be absorbed by the concrete over time, but only slowly.)
Then, depending on the quantity of recycled metal within it, there are around 1.8 kilograms of carbon dioxide emissions embodied within a kilogram of steel. That means the steel would contribute a further 4.1 million metric tons of CO₂.
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Trump's Border Wall Will Be Awful for the Environment (Original Post)
OKIsItJustMe
Jan 2017
OP
It reminds me of the Great Wall of China (built to keep people out) and the Berlin Wall
shraby
Jan 2017
#1
What bothers me besides a wall that can be tunneled under and flown over is..
dubyadiprecession
Jan 2017
#4
shraby
(21,946 posts)1. It reminds me of the Great Wall of China (built to keep people out) and the Berlin Wall
(build to keep people in)
Walls in this day and age of air travel, water travel, car travel makes no sense whatsoever.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)2. Yes it is
dhill926
(16,314 posts)3. Really don't think there's gonna be a wall...
Even if they try to build, I can see a lot of sabotage. In fact, would hope to see some
dubyadiprecession
(5,697 posts)4. What bothers me besides a wall that can be tunneled under and flown over is..
That the Mexican government still shuttles illegal immigrants (that accumulate in mexico from South America) from within its country to the US border, so that they may be closer to crossing here illegally.