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ffr

(22,665 posts)
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:26 AM Jul 2017

No Monarch butterfly sightings, no eggs either and it's mid-July. Getting worried.



Where are the Monarch butterflies this year? Anybody see any or find any milkweed with eggs laid on them?

I monitor about 100 Showy milkweed plants within about a 160 mile range, as a sample. Not one egg spotted. Not one Monarch butterfly seen.

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No Monarch butterfly sightings, no eggs either and it's mid-July. Getting worried. (Original Post) ffr Jul 2017 OP
Saw two Monarchs in my backyard last weekend htuttle Jul 2017 #1
Would it be your perception that they're less plentiful this year? ffr Jul 2017 #2
Hard to say htuttle Jul 2017 #4
I have seen one butterfly. No eggs or caterpillars yet. femmocrat Jul 2017 #3
I found out that deer apparently like milkweed. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #5
I wouldn't think adult milkweed plants would need protection. ffr Jul 2017 #8
😥 BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #9
Fewer Monarchs C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #6
Heavy sigh. ffr Jul 2017 #7
A Hint Of Hope For Monarch Butterflies In Connecticut OKIsItJustMe Jul 2017 #10
They're all over here in S. Delaware. kristopher Jul 2017 #11
Wonderful! Still none here. ffr Jul 2017 #12
Decent numbers here in the Twin Cities NickB79 Jul 2017 #13
Hope so. Take a closer look. We have a beetle doing that to some plants ffr Jul 2017 #14

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
1. Saw two Monarchs in my backyard last weekend
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jul 2017

We have a smattering of Milkweed plants around the edges of our yard in Madison, WI (right on the isthmus). I didn't notice any eggs yet, but have seen evidence that something has been eating the leaves.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
2. Would it be your perception that they're less plentiful this year?
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jul 2017

At least you've seen some, so they haven't been completely wiped out.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
4. Hard to say
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jul 2017

I inadvertently (meaning without thinking about it -- it wasn't exactly an accident) wiped out a lot of the milkweed that had filled the yard when I bought the house, so I haven't seen any Monarchs at all for a few years. These were the first I've seen in some time.

I'm letting all of the milkweed stay around from now on, and have been looking at planting more of it in some parts of the yard, so hopefully the Monarchs will follow the food. I hear from a lot of other people around town doing the same thing, so perhaps they'll return to some extent.




femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. I have seen one butterfly. No eggs or caterpillars yet.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jul 2017

I have a large patch of native milk weed that grows along our fence line and I protect it like it's gold! I'm in western PA.

Last year I was all excited about caterpillars, but they turned out to be tussock moths. These guys look like they could become Monarchs! Alas.... they cannot.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
5. I found out that deer apparently like milkweed.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jul 2017

I've been regularly spraying some of my shrubs that the deer go after, but I didn't think the milkweed needed spraying.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
8. I wouldn't think adult milkweed plants would need protection.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:10 AM
Jul 2017

Their resin should be enough to deter deer and livestock.

I notice in our yard that rabbits and perhaps squirrels too eat the baby plants and tender Spring chutes, but the adult plants don't receive much predation once established.

On the bright side, I suppose, I have identified more milkweed this year than ever, even openly growing near people's homes. So many flowering plants. The depressing side has been finding that none of them have eggs, caterpillars or any signs of life. Though I have seen some seed pods already, so something must have cross pollinated a few of the flowers. But that has been an isolated patch of plants.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
9. 😥
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jul 2017

Seeing the increase in human development (which is destruction for natural areas) makes me so soooo sad.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
7. Heavy sigh.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:00 AM
Jul 2017

All the more important that if there are any eggs laid, they reach adulthood.

Thanks for the link.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,937 posts)
10. A Hint Of Hope For Monarch Butterflies In Connecticut
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jul 2017
http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-monarch-butterfly-count-20170718-story.html

A Hint Of Hope For Monarch Butterflies In Connecticut

(Video)
Monarch populations may be reaching a danger point where they may be vanishing from CT landscape. Monitoring program use volunteers to track eggs/monarch counts as part of national tracking effort.

Gregory B. Hladky



After years of dire reports about the decline of the monarch butterfly, fans of this gorgeous insect now have at least a glimmer of good news: monarch numbers may once again be on the rise in Connecticut.

An annual one-day butterfly count conducted by volunteers in the Farmington River Valley sighted 63 monarchs July 22-23 – the highest total since 2008. Two years ago the Connecticut Butterfly Association’s count found no monarchs at all, and just eight were spotted in 2016.

“That’s so good to hear,” Gerry McCabe, a volunteer from Naugatuck who is working with her husband, Tom, on a long-term monarch butterfly monitoring program at the Kellogg Environmental Center in Derby, said of the Farmington Valley results. On a good day in the fields they check twice a week, the McCabes say they might see just one or two monarchs.

“It’s very good news,” Jay Kaplan, a member of the butterfly association who participated in the most recent Farmington River Valley count, said of the number of monarchs spotted. “But this is just one year,” he cautioned.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
11. They're all over here in S. Delaware.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:07 AM
Jul 2017

We have a fair number of milkweed plants we encourage and - in spite of the largest stand tangling with an aphid infection that got pretty bad - they're doing great and are well populated with pretty pollinators of all ilk. After a good scrubbing the sickly plant has recovered fully to it's normal happy orange glow.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
12. Wonderful! Still none here.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 06:17 PM
Jul 2017

I found an undiscovered patch of about 30 plants of all sizes along some shaded creeks and my heart rose somewhat. There were about 12 full sized seed pods that I'll be able to harvest this Fall.

Still no eggs though or signs of caterpillars. The plants are no good without eggs or seed pods for the next generation.

If you're feeling like you'd like to raise some Monarchs, it's a bit of work, but if you do, watch this video series on how to maximize egg-to-butterfly chances...

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
13. Decent numbers here in the Twin Cities
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 11:38 PM
Jul 2017

I've got 1/4 acre of my property in prairie restoration, with lots of milkweed, and they appear chewed on.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
14. Hope so. Take a closer look. We have a beetle doing that to some plants
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:59 AM
Jul 2017

It's definitely milkweed beetles here though. It's a losing battle, but I flick them off with my finger and squash them if I can. Soapy water does them in too, from what I understand.

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