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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 06:21 AM Nov 2017

Climate's magic rabbit: Pulling CO2 out of thin air

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41816332

Climate's magic rabbit: Pulling CO2 out of thin air

By Matt McGrath
Environment correspondent

9 hours ago

From the section Science & Environment

UN climate negotiators are meeting in Bonn amid a welter of reports indicating that concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have broken records, while international attempts to curb greenhouse gases are not doing enough to avoid dangerous levels of warming. Our environment correspondent Matt McGrath has travelled to Switzerland to see if technology to remove CO2 from the air could be the answer to this ongoing carbon conundrum.

While CO2 concentrations are now higher than they have been in at least 800,000 years, the gas still only accounts for a tiny 0.04% of our atmosphere. However, extracting carbon dioxide from well mixed air is not just technically difficult, it's expensive as well.

A half-hour outside Zurich stands one of the frontline attempts to develop a commercial approach to sucking down CO2. On the roof of a large recycling centre at Hinwil stand 18 metal fans, stacked on top of each, each about the size of a large domestic washing machine. These fans suck in the surrounding air and chemically coated filters inside absorb the CO2. They become saturated in a few hours so, using the waste heat from the recycling facility, the filters are heated up to 100C and very pure carbon dioxide gas is then collected.

This installation, called a direct-air capture system, has been developed by a Swiss company called Climeworks. It can capture about 900 tonnes of CO2 every year. It is then pumped to a large greenhouse a few hundred metres away, where it helps grow bigger vegetables.

This is not supposed to be a demonstration of a clever technology - for the developers, making money from CO2 is critical. "This is the first time we are commercially selling CO2; this is the first of its kind," co-founder Jan Wurzbacher told BBC News. "It has to be for business; CO2 capture can't work for free."

Right now Climeworks is selling the gas to the vegetable growers next door for less than $600 per tonne, which is very expensive. But the company says that this is because it has built its extraction devices from scratch - everything is bespoke. The firm believes that like solar and wind energy, costs will rapidly fall once production is scaled up.
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Climate's magic rabbit: Pulling CO2 out of thin air (Original Post) nitpicker Nov 2017 OP
A small start, at least. Duppers Nov 2017 #1
Hope it works on a global scale and is expandable. defacto7 Nov 2017 #2
Wait, the CO2 extracted isn't sequestered NickB79 Nov 2017 #3

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
3. Wait, the CO2 extracted isn't sequestered
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:31 PM
Nov 2017

Fed to a greenhouse, it still winds up in the atmosphere. And even that's too costly to be viable economically.

So how are we supposed to extract carbon from the air and then squester it for no profit deep underground on a multi-billion ton scale?

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