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NNadir

(33,515 posts)
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:04 PM Oct 2018

We seem to have hit the carbon dioxide minimum for 2018 at Mauna Loa.

Atmospheric concentrations of CO2, as many people know, follows a sinusoidal curve where the ordinate axis may be crudely approximated as a monotonically increasing straight line rotated from the zero axis:



The slope of this rotating axis line - using weekly data going back to the first week of October, 2000 is 2.16 ppm/year.

The slope of the rotated axis line since NOAA began publishing weekly data in 1975, from the second week of October 1975 (the data is missing for the first week of that year) to October of 2000 was 1.53 ppm/year.

The slope of the rotated axis line since the first week October of 2008 to now is 2.23.

In other words the "straight line" is bent; things are getting worse, not better.

The change for this year - a mild carbon year since it's post-El Nino year - from last year's minimum is 2.20. The minimum this year seems to have occurred in the week ending September 30, 2018. We were at 405.5 ppm. No one now living will ever see a measurement below again in their lifetime again.

We're doing great!!!!:

"Percent solar," "percent, wind," "Tesla electric car!" "100% renewable by 2050 or 2060 or 2070 or 2100 or whatever," and so on...

Al Gore spoke of the frog in a pot being heated to boiling having a very different reaction than a frog being into a pot that is already boiling..

We've been in this pot for many, many, many decades, and are accepting the heat at great risk to the future.

And I'm sorry, but "Percent solar," "percent, wind," "Tesla electric car!" "100% renewable by 2050 or 2060 or 2070 or 2100"...blah...blah...blah...

...hasn't worked, isn't working, and most importantly won't work.

The first step will be to stop lying to ourselves.

Have a wonderful Sunday evening.







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We seem to have hit the carbon dioxide minimum for 2018 at Mauna Loa. (Original Post) NNadir Oct 2018 OP
Blah blah blah is far too dismissive of tech that does have an impact Loki Liesmith Oct 2018 #1
Really? NNadir Oct 2018 #2
PPM just keeps going up - every month, every year, and nothing is bending the curve hatrack Oct 2018 #3

NNadir

(33,515 posts)
2. Really?
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:00 PM
Oct 2018

I think it's totally appropriate.

We dropped two trillion dollars - this on a planet where billions of people lack clean water - an amount that is greater than the annual gross domestic product of India, a nation with 1.3 billion people in it, on so called "renewable energy."

This information is here, in the UNEP Frankfurt School Report, issued each year: GLOBAL TRENDS IN RENEWABLE ENERGY INVESTMENT 2017

As of 2016, all the solar and wind trash on this whole damned planet didn't produce 10 of the 576 exajoules of energy that humanity was consuming as of 2016.

From 2000 to 2016, the use of coal on this planet increased by 60 exajoules, or six times the amount of energy that the solar and wind energy industry have been able to produce in any single year in more than half a century of mindless cheering for them.

IEA 2017 World Energy Outlook, Table 2.2 page 79 (I have converted MTOE in the original table to the SI unit exajoules in this text.)

Twenty or twenty five years from now every piece of consumer crap invested in this pixilated scheme will be landfill, and the people who are babies today will have to clean up the incredible toxic mess left behind, while there will still be uneducated assholes running around representing this scheme with all sorts of soothsaying and delusional statements about its effectiveness.

We will also be at 430-440 ppm by then.

Blah...blah...blah is absolutely appropriate. So called "renewable energy" is garbage. The data shows it didn't work and isn't working.

Unfortunately, the hatred of data on people who buy into this delusional fantasy about so called "renewable energy" have as little respect for data as Republicans do, I regret to say.

I'm not at all surprised to hear yet another glib statement about how effective so called "renewable energy" is, when the atmosphere, which doesn't give a shit about delusional rhetoric clearly shows it isn't.

Like I said, we have an infinite propensity to lie to ourselves and until we overcome this, things will continue to get worse not better.

All these glib statements how wonderful this useless blah...blah...blah crap is, and always will be, cases of people lying to themselves, because the truth is written in the planetary atmosphere.

Have a nice evening.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
3. PPM just keeps going up - every month, every year, and nothing is bending the curve
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 12:28 AM
Oct 2018

It's not dismissive, it's just . .. reality.

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