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hatrack

(59,583 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:27 PM Oct 2019

PG&E CEO: California Can Expect A Decade Of Blackouts

The CEO of Pacific Gas & Electric Corp. told California energy regulators that the state will likely see blackouts for another 10 years like the one imposed last week that left as many as 800,000 customers without power.

The revelation by corporation CEO Bill Johnson came Friday at a California Public Utilities Commission meeting at which he said his company is trying to reduce the chances of wildfires by trimming more trees and using technology to target smaller areas of the grid when fire dangers require power outages. But Johnson said it could take 10 years before such outages are “really ratcheted down significantly.”

PG&E has come near universal criticism for its lack of planning in shutting off power and its failure to adequately handle customers’ questions while the outages lasted. PUC president Marybel Batjer blasted utility officials saying, “what we saw play out by PG&E last week cannot be repeated.”

During the blackouts, Johnson admitted that his company had not been prepared for the impact of the outages, including the crashing of the utility’s website and call centers being overwhelmed with customers’ concerns. But Johnson still maintains that the outages, which the company calls Public Safety Power Shutoff events, were necessary to ensure safety in the face of seasonally high winds that can damage power lines and lead to wildfires.

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https://desdemonadespair.net/2019/10/california-can-expect-blackouts-for-a-decade-says-pge-ceo-power-outage-in-fall-2019-could-cost-california-economy-more-than-2-billion.html

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PG&E CEO: California Can Expect A Decade Of Blackouts (Original Post) hatrack Oct 2019 OP
because pg and e fails years of nelegct of cleaning under their lines and repairing their equpment AllaN01Bear Oct 2019 #1
Yeah, we know that is your cynical play -- strong-arm the state into bailing you out RockRaven Oct 2019 #2
Huh? Fires TODAY and they are responsible but no rolling blackouts?!?!? BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #3
Time to get rid of 2naSalit Oct 2019 #4
Totally agree. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2019 #8
And they maintained their equipment 2naSalit Oct 2019 #9
Need to have local control of water, too dixiegrrrrl Oct 2019 #11
That's true all over the west. 2naSalit Oct 2019 #12
dear ca- go solar. mopinko Oct 2019 #5
My neighbors have solar and it apparently doesn't work without power stopwastingmymoney Oct 2019 #7
If you're grid-tied, solar doesn't work. No battery bank NickB79 Oct 2019 #13
I'm glad I bought a generator stopwastingmymoney Oct 2019 #6
It's Like Camping Out The River Oct 2019 #10

AllaN01Bear

(18,119 posts)
1. because pg and e fails years of nelegct of cleaning under their lines and repairing their equpment
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:35 PM
Oct 2019

i dont know if they also ignored court orders to turn off power when they should have . this is a wake up call for all of us .

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
2. Yeah, we know that is your cynical play -- strong-arm the state into bailing you out
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:35 PM
Oct 2019

one way or another (massive subsidy, some degree of tort limitation, etc) by maximizing consumer inconvenience/pain until your get your hand-out. But maybe we should just tell you to fuck off and just end your company? How much do you want to gamble on this game of chicken, Mr PG&E CEO?

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
3. Huh? Fires TODAY and they are responsible but no rolling blackouts?!?!?
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:40 PM
Oct 2019


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2386119

"PG&E says transmission lines malfunctioned near start of Kincade Fire".
"The transmission line was not among the lines de-energized in Sonoma county," Johnson said, adding "They did not meet the conditions that we forecast for transmission outage. We relied on the protocol and we still at this point do not know what happened."

2naSalit

(86,515 posts)
4. Time to get rid of
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:10 AM
Oct 2019

privately owned utilities. How about point source power generation? Lots of those methods don't cause fires. And large blackouts don't happen.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. Totally agree.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:50 AM
Oct 2019

There was a time in my youth when utilities were city/state owned,
You knew who to yell at if they screwed up, and they had to be responsive to the customers.

2naSalit

(86,515 posts)
9. And they maintained their equipment
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:57 AM
Oct 2019

because the clients owned it and budgeted for such things. They weren't all about "the bottom line"... they were a public service.

2naSalit

(86,515 posts)
12. That's true all over the west.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:09 PM
Oct 2019

But all these services need to be public utilities, period. Unless you generate your own power for yourself, it should be provided by a public utility.

mopinko

(70,071 posts)
5. dear ca- go solar.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:25 AM
Oct 2019

dang i would be off the grid so fast if i lived out there.
state should roll out some money for this, pronto.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
7. My neighbors have solar and it apparently doesn't work without power
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:28 AM
Oct 2019

I’m not sure of the ins and outs there, but she ran a cord over this morning to my generator



NickB79

(19,233 posts)
13. If you're grid-tied, solar doesn't work. No battery bank
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:05 PM
Oct 2019

Essentially, you feed power into the grid by day and you're using the grid at night as a meta-battery, because adding a battery bank can add thousands to a solar install. But, no grid, no power.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
6. I'm glad I bought a generator
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:25 AM
Oct 2019

And, I’m grateful that my hot water heater worked when the electric was out

Sigh...

The River

(2,615 posts)
10. It's Like Camping Out
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:28 AM
Oct 2019

in your own home.
I have all the gear, why not use it?
I can cook and heat water on my Coleman camp stove.
If all else fails..I can use my new generator.

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