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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:39 PM Jun 2012

Germany Ranks Highest in Renewable Energy Production

Germany Ranks Highest in Renewable Energy Production
11 JUNE 2012

European countries, led by Germany, get more of their electricity from wind, solar, geothermal and other renewable sources than any other region in the world, according to a new report from the Natural Resources Defense Council.

US production of renewable energy has increased by more than 300% in the past decade, but the United States still lags far behind Europe and Indonesia and is only slightly ahead of Mexico in the percentage of electricity it gets from renewable sources, NRDC’s global renewable energy scorecard shows. The United States got about 2.7 percent of its electricity from renewables in 2011, making it No. 7 among G-20 member countries.

Renewable energy is expected to be a major issue at the upcoming Rio+20 Earth Summit in Brazil. NRDC is advocating for countries to adopt policies to increase the percentage of electricity they get from renewable sources to 15% by 2020.

Already some smaller, non-G-20 countries such as Spain, New Zealand and Iceland get more than 15% of their energy from renewable sources...


http://www.solarnovus.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5085:germany-ranks-highest-in-renewable-energy-production&catid=45:politics-policy-news&Itemid=249
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Germany Ranks Highest in Renewable Energy Production (Original Post) kristopher Jun 2012 OP
Thats a half truth dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #1
Dear Nuclear Promoter, You obviously didn't read the article... kristopher Jun 2012 #2
You may have misinterpreted something dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #3
Dear Nuclear Promoter, thank you for more off-topic right wing BS. kristopher Jun 2012 #4
You're out of touch sunshine dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #5
Identifying arguments by source isn't "name calling" kristopher Jun 2012 #6
I'm not spreading an RW lie dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #7
Encouraging Franker65 Jun 2012 #8

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
1. Thats a half truth
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:47 PM
Jun 2012

which doesn't account for the nuclear derived energy they import from France. and the Czech Republic.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
2. Dear Nuclear Promoter, You obviously didn't read the article...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jun 2012

Having your own personal meltdown, are you?

The success of renewables is a good thing, my friend. A very good thing for us all.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. You may have misinterpreted something
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jun 2012

I was simply drawing attention to an absurdity. I actually neither support nor condemn nuclear energy - at the age of 68 I've no real cause to give a fuck.

Aside from that I think you may find elsewhere that despite Germany's efforts on renewables there are doubts as to its economics - may not sell

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. Dear Nuclear Promoter, thank you for more off-topic right wing BS.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jun 2012

You clearly haven't yet read the article and instead prefer to promote right-wing memes put forth by entrenched energy providers.

What Germany is doing has those entrenched providers scared witless - and it shows in their rhetoric and PR campaigns.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. You're out of touch sunshine
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jun 2012

If you search elsewhere on DU you'll find that the renewables are in the Baltic whereas the main intended users, industry, are not. Currrently
the German government won't subsidise any energy sources. As such there's a standoff due to pricing of that energy.

Absurd name calling rarely achieves anything.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. Identifying arguments by source isn't "name calling"
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jun 2012

Germany is on track to do exactly what the people want them to do - switch from a fossil/nuclear energy system to a distributed renewable energy system. Pointing to the things that need to be done to accomplish this task as if they are proof of failure is a purely right-wing approach intended to discredit the effort.

It is, in other words, a right wing lie that you seem intent on spreading. You claim you are not a nuclear promoter; but given your obvious eagerness to carry the nuclear industry's water that claim seems a bit hollow.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. I'm not spreading an RW lie
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jun 2012

I'm pointing out to you that you're using information based on Germany renewable energy production compared with overall energy production. That would be fine were it not the case that by September last year Germany had gone from being a net exporter of energy to net importer. So - it was inevitable that renewables as a percentage would rise.

They've got long ways to go to catch up Albania who are 100 % - they have nothing other than hydroelectric as an energy source.

You'd questioned whether I'd read the entire article you posted. There were only another two paragraphs. Posting more than half an article could be construed as breach of copyrite - deleting two paras might make sense.

Franker65

(299 posts)
8. Encouraging
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:52 AM
Jun 2012

I'd agree with Dipsydoodle regarding the point about the energy at the Baltic. It is far from the Ruhr and southern Germany where most of the industry is. The grid operaters are trying to build expensive power lines down there and the locals don't like it. But still, its good to see positives about renewables. Its still quite early since the decision after Fukushima and its quite encouraging so far. Even on a global level, statistics show that Germany is making good progress in renewables, especially wind energy.

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