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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:40 PM Jul 2012

Average Chinese person's carbon footprint now equals European's

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jul/18/china-average-europe-carbon-footprint

The average Chinese person's carbon footprint is now almost on a par with the average European's, figures released on Wednesday reveal.

China became the largest national emitter of CO2 in 2006, though its emissions per person have always been lower than those in developed countries such as Europe.

But today's report, which only covers emissions from energy, by the PBL Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and the European commission's Joint Research Centre (JRC) show that per capita emissions in China increased by 9% in 2011 to reach 7.2 tonnes per person, only a fraction lower than the EU average of 7.5 tonnes.

The figure for the US is still much higher – at 17.3 tonnes – though total Chinese CO2 emissions are now around 80% higher than those of America. This widening gap reflects a 9% increase in total emissions in China in 2011, driven mainly by rising coal use, compared with a 2% decline in the US.
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Average Chinese person's carbon footprint now equals European's (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2012 OP
OK then phantom power Jul 2012 #1
Our biggest problem is the lack of rail transportation across the US, and in particular, lack of JDPriestly Jul 2012 #2
LA has better public transportation than you would think XemaSab Jul 2012 #3
Depends on what part of LA you live. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #6
In certain areas. I can move around the East side and through downtown up to a certain point on JDPriestly Jul 2012 #7
That is so cool. They're making real progress! GliderGuider Jul 2012 #4
Their carbon is now doubling pscot Jul 2012 #5

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Our biggest problem is the lack of rail transportation across the US, and in particular, lack of
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jul 2012

good public transportation in some of our cities. (Primarily Los Angeles)

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
3. LA has better public transportation than you would think
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jul 2012

I lived there without a car.

Living in Sacramento without a car would be tough because the grocery stores aren't centrally located.

Living in Redding without a car? Fugheddaboudit. (Case in point: before the pedestrian bridge was built, going to the mall a mile away from my house would have involved no fewer than three different busses, about an hour of transit time, and almost a half-mile of walking in the other direction.)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. Depends on what part of LA you live.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:19 AM
Jul 2012

I could survive in my neighborhood without a car, but it would be hard.

But, we were traveling on Sunset the other day. It took forever just to "drive" (actually creep, we would have moved faster on foot), a block. But since we live a long way from Sunset and it was late in the evening, we had little choice but to drive. I just stay out of other parts of the city as much as I can.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
7. In certain areas. I can move around the East side and through downtown up to a certain point on
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:53 PM
Jul 2012

Wilshire and in South LA and up into Hollywood.

But to get to West LA -- Santa Monica or Century City or the beach north of the airport, I would have to ride by bush or car -- and bus is just as slow as a car and not as comfortable.

We have the Gold Line that goes from East LA to Sierra Madre now. It's great. Clean. Well traveled. But very limited in reach.

We just do not go to the Westside unless we have to.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
4. That is so cool. They're making real progress!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jul 2012

It's fascinating to watch the Industrial Club of Terra gain a new member. I hope their society continues to expand for centuries...

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