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The anomaly has gone below 2 million (Original Post) XemaSab Jul 2012 OP
Please explain to us non-experts dballance Jul 2012 #1
there is a bit more than 2 million square kilometers less ice than "normal" phantom power Jul 2012 #4
This is the area of the Arctic sea ice pack XemaSab Jul 2012 #5
Also, this: XemaSab Jul 2012 #2
fucking hell, not very much purple in that map phantom power Jul 2012 #3
It makes 2007 look healthy XemaSab Jul 2012 #6
And the red is waaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger too & heavily edged with yellow, so yellow is growing. patrice Jul 2012 #9
Why the shift in ice distribution from 2007 to 2012? NickB79 Jul 2012 #7
Simple answer: currents and weather patterns XemaSab Jul 2012 #10
Based on current flows happyslug Jul 2012 #21
Wow, that is chilling. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #11
Yipe! GliderGuider Jul 2012 #12
One of the things that really stands out XemaSab Jul 2012 #13
I expect the NW Passage to open up pretty fast. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #15
Looks worse today than it did three days ago XemaSab Jul 2012 #16
! emmadoggy Jul 2012 #17
We are in such deep shit. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #24
This year could make 2007 look like XemaSab Jul 2012 #29
Kick. emmadoggy Aug 2012 #32
When do we stop calling it an anomaly and start calling it what it really is? NickB79 Jul 2012 #8
Neven's got a post up about it XemaSab Jul 2012 #14
This gif from the comments = wow: joshcryer Jul 2012 #20
Oh Shit. nt emmadoggy Jul 2012 #18
The models have been so wrong about this... joshcryer Jul 2012 #19
Yikes demguy_5692 Jul 2012 #22
The Acrtic Ice Cap looks like the Arctic SLUSHY Odin2005 Jul 2012 #23
Link to where this photo's from, please? Systematic Chaos Jul 2012 #25
Looks like a MODIS image XemaSab Jul 2012 #26
Yup, MODIS image from that red patch. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #27
Mucho grassy ass and de nachos, si! Systematic Chaos Jul 2012 #28
Kick! Holy crap, look at the change just from emmadoggy Jul 2012 #30
. XemaSab Jul 2012 #31

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
4. there is a bit more than 2 million square kilometers less ice than "normal"
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jul 2012

where "normal" is defined as the mean over 1979 - 2008 (note this range actually includes the infamous 2007 record-low-coverage year).

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
5. This is the area of the Arctic sea ice pack
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:03 PM
Jul 2012

taken from this site: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

Long story short, unless something changes, we're on our way to a record low ice area this year.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
7. Why the shift in ice distribution from 2007 to 2012?
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jul 2012

There's way more ice up near Alaska compared to 2007, but much less ice above central Russia than before.

Anyone know what's driving the different melting patterns?

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
11. Wow, that is chilling.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:51 PM
Jul 2012

No pun intended.

Melted sea ice means more heat in the exposed water, correct? Further accelerating the issue?

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
12. Yipe!
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jul 2012

I was looking for a way to dig back to the 2007 comparison image, but hadn't found it yet. Thanks.

I hate to say it, but that's about what I was expecting to see.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
13. One of the things that really stands out
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:23 PM
Jul 2012

is that in 2007, it was a solid pack.

All that red area in the 2012 image is loose floes.

In 2007, the weather conditions were particularly conducive to melting. Since then, the weather had been conducive to retaining ice, but it's still going.

If we got weather conditions like 2007, the Arctic would be virtually ice-free this year.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
15. I expect the NW Passage to open up pretty fast.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jul 2012

Maybe even beat its earliest opening by a couple of weeks. The August PIOMAS anomaly should be damned interesting too...

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
14. Neven's got a post up about it
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jul 2012

It happened four times before, twice in 2007 and twice in 2011. Both record minimum years in the CT SIA data set had a first small dip a couple of weeks before the minimum, and a bigger one during the period of re-freeze:

First dip 2007: Aug. 19th - Aug. 23rd
Big dip 2007: Sep. 25th - Oct.29th (reaching the record anomaly of -2.635 million km2)

First dip 2011:Aug. 24th - Aug. 25th
Big dip 2011: Oct. 13th - Oct. 24th (reaching -2.224 million km2)

This year the negative anomaly has dipped below 2 million km2 on July 17th, more than a month earlier than the previous earliest record.


http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2012/07/ct-sia-anomaly-drops-below-2-million-km2.html

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
25. Link to where this photo's from, please?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:40 PM
Jul 2012

Save me the trouble of spending until next month trying to figure it out on my own?

emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
30. Kick! Holy crap, look at the change just from
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jul 2012

7/17 to 7/23!!

Yikes.

Edit: oops, meant to post this as a reply to Xemasab's Cryosphere post, upthread.

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