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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:16 PM Mar 2014

AAA Study: Electric Car Range Drops Up To 57% In Extreme Weather

We've known for some time that battery range in electric vehicles can fluctuate in response to temperature. However, studies and simulations have produced varying estimates of how much range owners can expect to lose. New tests conducted by AAA aren't the final word on the matter, but they could give consumers a glimpse of what to expect during the hottest and coldest months.

To carry out its tests, AAA used a 2014 Ford Focus Electric Vehicle, a 2012 Mitsubishi iMIEV, and a 2013 Nissan Leaf. According to AAA: 

"Vehicles were tested for city driving to mimic stop-and-go traffic, and to better compare with EPA ratings listed on the window sticker..... Each vehicle completed a driving cycle for moderate, hot and cold climates following standard EPA-DOE test procedures. The vehicles were fully charged and then 'driven' on a dynamometer in a climate-controlled room until the battery was fully exhausted."

When tested at the moderate temperature of 75 degrees Fahrenheit, AAA says the three vehicles averaged 105 miles per charge. After the thermostat was cranked up to 95 degrees, however, that range plummeted to just 69 miles.

The batteries performed even worse in cold weather. When the vehicles were tested at 20 degrees Fahrenheit, they averaged just 43 miles -- a 57 percent reduction in range.



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AAA Study: Electric Car Range Drops Up To 57% In Extreme Weather (Original Post) Redfairen Mar 2014 OP
Aside from batteries not doing well at high or low temps... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #1
I Live In The Chicago Metropolitan Area And Last Time I Took A Taxi It Was A Prius...... global1 Mar 2014 #2
I've got an old Prius (2005 model) and I love it. Nihil Mar 2014 #5
Our Priuses go from 53 mpg summer to 43 mpg winter. postulater Mar 2014 #3
I beleive the Tesla Model S freethought Mar 2014 #4

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Aside from batteries not doing well at high or low temps...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:24 PM
Mar 2014

you've got air conditioning or heating running. Not applicable in this test, but in the real world you also have lights on longer in winter.

And then there's driving into the wind...

Can't get around it-- it's going to take some new battery technology to make electrics viable.

global1

(25,237 posts)
2. I Live In The Chicago Metropolitan Area And Last Time I Took A Taxi It Was A Prius......
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:36 PM
Mar 2014

I engaged the cabdriver in a discussion about the car and he didn't have a lot of good things to say about it. He said it really performed poorly in the snow, icy conditions and the cold we had this winter. I saw first hand - because we were on our way to Midway Airport early in the morning during a snowstorm that hit during the night. I maneuvered poorly on the snowy streets and we had a difficult time negotiating the poorly maintained streets.

I wanted to hear from other Prius owners about this - because I was actually considering purchasing a Prius V. Since my experience with this cabbie - I think I've changed my mind.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
5. I've got an old Prius (2005 model) and I love it.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 05:46 AM
Mar 2014

If I was in the position to consider a replacement, it would be another Prius.

Our mpg drops in the winter from >50 to >40, mainly because the majority of
journeys that my wife makes are < 5 miles and, in the Winter, the engine will
be running while we scrape the ice off the windows (*). (Still get good mpg on any
longer journeys, just not on the daily grind stuff.)

I haven't have any particular problem with handling on icy/snowy roads but,
then again, in those conditions I always wish for my old Subaru Forester back!
It handles as well (or better) in the Winter as any other non-4x4 that I've driven.

Don't know (first hand) how the newest models of Prius differ from the old ones
but my experience with the older one is very satisfactory.

HTH





(*) ETA: Yes, if I cleared out the garage so that the *car* could actually fit in it
then that might help ... but Mrs Nihil hates parking even the smallest car in a garage
and Mr. Nihil hates throwing things away!

postulater

(5,075 posts)
3. Our Priuses go from 53 mpg summer to 43 mpg winter.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:07 PM
Mar 2014

Wisconsin weather.

Still better than the Saab at 26 mpg though not as fun to drive.

freethought

(2,457 posts)
4. I beleive the Tesla Model S
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:44 PM
Mar 2014

has a sytem that keeps the battery packs at constant temperature just for that reason and to keep the service life of the batteries extended. As I understand it if you don't plug in the model S the batteries will us power running that system.

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