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Related: About this forumSamsung SDI to invest $1 Billion in EV Battery Gigafactory
In order to acquire the dominance and leadership in Chinese EV market, Samsung SDI became the first global battery manufacturer to construct an EV battery plant and initiate mass production in China, beating LG Chem who broke ground on a similar plant in China a year ago.
The Xian plant has initiated its operation from September. It has finalized battery supply agreements with 10 local personal and commercial vehicle companies and is already delivering the goods. Some of these companies include Yutong, the leader of Chinas and also the worlds bus industry and then Foton, the leader of Chinas truck industry.
The finalized Samsung SDI Xian Plant is a cutting-edge production line that can manufacture high-performance electric vehicle (in standard of pure EVs) batteries for an amount of approximately 40 thousand cars a year. The plant is capable of carrying out the whole production process of EV battery cells and modules. Preparing for increased market demand in the future, Samsung SDI will invest by adding production line, etc. 600 million USD into the Xian battery plant until 2020 and aim to achieve 1 billion USD in sales.
Samsung ...
http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2015/11/samsung-sd-to-invest-1-billion-in-ev.html
NNadir
(33,512 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:19 PM - Edit history (1)
The general scheme on this planet seems to be "if it's too dirty to do anywhere else, do it in China."
While all of our anti-nukes line up to praise electric cars - which are not sustainable - the Chinese, are finding out that their electric cars are actually more dangerous than gasoline cars, in terms of air pollution, not that there is one, even one anti-nuke who gives a rat's ass about how many people die from air pollution, in China or anywhere else.
Electric Vehicles in China: Emissions and Health Impacts (Environ. Sci. Technol., 2012, 46 (4), pp 20182024)
Basically, these kinds of notes all represent the fact that nearly 100% of the world's anti-nukes are clueless bourgeoisie who neither know anything nor know anything about environmental issues, in this case, the external costs of battery manufacture (Potential Environmental and Human Health Impacts of Rechargeable Lithium Batteries in Electronic Waste - Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (10), pp 54955503) and, for that matter, the 2nd law of thermodynamics and what it implies for energy storage in general.
Car CULTists, particularly those who run around in the anti-nuke rhetorical circles would have been among the most amusing people on the face on the planet, except for the fact that the amount of damage they are doing in real human terms is enormous, dire, disgraceful, tragic, appalling.
I recently put up a post here to see if any anti-nukes would respond to the fact noted in one of the world's most prestigious scientific journals, Nature, that while they are busy whining about how someone might someday die from Fukushima, 1.4 million people die each year from air pollution in China. Predictably, not one anti-nuke showed up to comment. From this, one can conclude they couldn't care less about China, about Chinese, except to the extent that these people bear the external costs of their absurd and unworkable (and generally oblivious) fantasies. One wonders if they understand, even remotely, that Chinese are human beings.
Nature: China's annual air pollution deaths now stand at 1.4 million per year.
From where I sit, this says everything one needs to know about these people.
But making batteries for stupid and toxic electric cars in China, well compared to the 1.4 million dead each year from air pollution - despite the fact that there are 100 million electric vehicles (mostly scooters) operating there right now - now that's news.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)And it's even worse when the speaker is spouting the irrational talking points of a nuclear zealot.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)Basically what one expects from a clueless bourgeois car CULTist, who can't help reminding anyone who looks about the depth of depravity that accompanies poor thinking and an obviously poor level of education, both technical and moral.
Every year, 1.4 million people die from pollution, and what do we get in response from this sort? A Peanuts cartoon.
How telling! How obviating!
Every single one of these 1.4 million people had a family, a life, hopes, dreams only to die gasping for air.
"Peanuts!"
Like I said, depraved, indifferent, clueless. The worst kind of anti-intellectual is a sneering anti-intellectual. Three citations from important scientific journals about real human tragedy...a sneer.
At times like this, one wishes that there was a kind of justice in the world, but alas, there doesn't seem to be.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Coal and nuclear, nuclear and coal - economic twins birthed by the same polluting centralized fossil fuel system. Nuclear doesn't replace coal, it bolsters its economics - and you full well know it.
And in light of the certainty that you possess that knowledge, the way you attack the very successful path we are on to decarbonizing with renewables speaks directly to the extremely unfortunate state of your ethics.
Finishline42
(1,091 posts)We are going to run out of Aluminum so we can't build the windmills needed to power the future!!!
Better tell the beer drinkers first...
kristopher
(29,798 posts)...and unfortunately we've had to endure years of that mental vomit.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)International Energy Agency says figures are a clear sign of a transition from coal to clean energy
Damian Carrington
10 November 2015
Renewable energy accounted for almost half of all new power plants in 2014, representing a clear sign that an energy transition is underway, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA).
Green energy is now the second-largest generator of electricity in the world, after coal, and is set to overtake the dirtiest fossil fuel in the early 2030s, said the IEAs World Energy Outlook 2015 report, published on Tuesday.
The biggest story is in the case of renewables, said IEA executive director, Fatih Birol. It is no longer a niche. Renewable energy has become a mainstream fuel, as of now. He said 60% of all new investment was going into renewables but warned that the $490bn of fossil fuel subsidies in 2014 meant there was not a fair competition....
NNadir
(33,512 posts)...is doing to the environment:
For instance there's this one: IEA coal page
The graphic box (yellow) on the bottom of the page has this "Fast fact"
46% of added energy
Coal supplied 1520 Mtoe of the 3292 Mtoe of additional global primary energy supply from 2000 to 2012.
200 MW/day Total new coal generation capacity commissioned in the world in 2010-14.
Of course, if one doesn't give a shit about coal - and let's be clear there isn't one single anti-nuke on the face of this planet who gives a rat's ass about the seven million (or more) people who die each year from air pollution - one can google around to stupid articles written by stupid reporters in stupid newspapers that wish to foster the bald lie that the rated capacity of so called "renewable energy" infrastructure ever, even for fifteen seconds, produces at 100% of capacity, though none of it ever does, cut and paste lazily and go on obliviously into the dark future before humanity and the ecosystems into which humanity was born.
The fact is that so called "renewable energy" is an expensive mass intensive and money sucking intensive scheme to entrench the dangerous fossil fuel forever, because no amount of lying, misrepresentation or other such trash can deal with the fact that the wind doesn't always blow, and the sun doesn't always shine.
Now. The number of defenders of this failed, expensive and toxic so called "renewable energy" scheme - especially the anti-nukes among them, all of whom are scientifically illiterate and all of whom are very, very, very, very bad at math - may not be able to follow this, but the 1520 MTOE is about 64 exajoules. By contrast, the two trillion dollar redundant (with gas mostly) so called "renewable energy" wind and solar industries can't produce 5 exajoules of the 560 exajoules of energy humanity now consumes each year.
The fastest growing sources of energy - not garbage capacity that spends most of its time in the "off" position - but primary energy, measured in the SI unit of energy, the joule, are gas and coal.
The signature is right in the planetary atmosphere for all to see and record: Mauna Loa Carbon Dioxide Observatory
It didn't have to be this way, but somehow the absurd, noxious and poorly thought out rhetoric of anti-nukes was able to charm the planet into the abyss of destruction. They are, of course, totally numb people with shut minds of limited capacity, and so they have nothing like to wherewithal to apologize to future generations - and generations now living - for what they have done.
And I repeat, that abyss, whether dumb anti-nukes give a shit or not - they don't - is for 1.4 million Chinese per year, and more than five million human beings out side of China death by air pollution.
Nature: China's annual air pollution deaths now stand at 1.4 million per year.
(I know; I know; I know, anti-nukes couldn't care less, it's all Fukushima all the time.)
I'd like to thank all of the anti-nukes in this thread, by the way, for the most excellent Pee-Wee Herman imitation ("I'm not but you are" . Like I said, they'd be mildly amusing if their ignorance wasn't killing all the people who will die this year from air pollution, who will die next year from air pollution, and all those who will suffer from the vast destruction now under way in connection with climate change.
"Disgusting" in some contexts is a more appropriate word than "amusing" for many situations, particularly where hopelessly impenetrable ignorance is being described, but that's neither here nor there.
And let's be clear, to return to the opening post about the toxicologically nightmarish battery factory that will be poisoning Chinese workers with all kinds of heavy metals, what will charge the majority of those batteries wouldn't be stupid, useless, wind and solar garbage; it will be coal and gas.
Things didn't have to be this way, but they are. As has happened many times in the past, albeit quite possibly with less long term consequences that the current situation entails, fear and ignorance have won again.
Have a wonderful evening.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)As the current statistics show, renewable sources ARE changing things in a way nuclear can't.
As I said earlier, your arguments are either irrelevant to the topic of change or simply and transparently dishonest.
The report highlighted CSP solar projects in China (the 200 MW, $866 million Qinghai solar thermal plant), Israel, and South Africa (the 100 MW, $749 million SolarReserve Redstone solar thermal complex), as well as four offshore wind farms in Chinese waters (including the 300 MW, $856 million Longyuan Haian Jiangjiasha offshore wind farm) as some of the largest projects to receive financing in the third quarter, but in the end it was the Americas which saw the biggest percentage gains in investment in the third quarter, according to BNEF.
Specifically, Brazil saw investment jump an impressive 131% to reach $2.3 billion, due at least in part due to a rush on wind project financing, while Chile saw its own figures grow from $180 million in Q314 to $1.6 billion in Q315. And of course the United States also benefited from investment growth this quarter, with a 25% surge in investment to reach a whopping $13.4 billion.
Investment in the first three quarters of this year has been $197.9bn, just $4.3bn down on the same period of 2014 a resilient performance given the sizeable shifts in foreign exchange rates that will have reduced the dollar value of projects outside the US, said Michael Liebreich, chairman of the advisory board at Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Part of the explanation is the ongoing improvement in cost-effectiveness of solar and wind relative to fossil fuel generation. That is enabling those renewable energy technologies to attract a big share of power sector investment everywhere from China and Japan to Latin America and South Africa.... http://cleantechnica.com/2015/10/08/global-q3-renewable-energy-tecnology-investment-totals-70-billion-bnef/