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This is a few years old. A science teacher friend of mine just posted it on Facebook. Thought I would share.
Myth #1: Organic Farms Don't Use Pesticides
When the Soil Association, a major organic accreditation body in the UK, asked consumers why they buy organic food, 95% of them said their top reason was to avoid pesticides. They, like many people, believe that organic farming involves little to no pesticide use. I hate to burst the bubble, but that's simply not true.
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Myth #2: Organic Foods are Healthier
Some people believe that by not using manufactured chemicals or genetically modified organisms, organic farming produces more nutritious food. However, science simply cannot find any evidence that organic foods are in any way healthier than non-organic ones - and scientists have been comparing the two for over 50 years.
Just recently, an independent research project in the UK systematically reviewed the 162 articles on organic versus non-organic crops published in peer-reviewed journals between 1958 and 2008 11. These contained a total of 3558 comparisons of content of nutrients and other substances in organically and conventionally produced foods. They found absolutely no evidence for any differences in content of over 15 different nutrients including vitamin C, ?-carotene, and calcium. There were some differences, though; conventional crops had higher nitrogen levels, while organic ones had higher phosphorus and acidity - none of which factor in much to nutritional quality. Further analysis of similar studies on livestock products like meat, dairy, and eggs also found few differences in nutritional content. Organic foods did, however, have higher levels of overall fats, particularly trans fats. So if anything, the organic livestock products were found to be worse for us (though, to be fair, barely).
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Myth #3: Organic Farming Is Better For The Environment
As an ecologist by training, this myth bothers me the most of all three. People seem to believe they're doing the world a favor by eating organic. The simple fact is that they're not - at least the issue is not that cut and dry.
Yes, organic farming practices use less synthetic pesticides which have been found to be ecologically damaging. But factory organic farms use their own barrage of chemicals that are still ecologically damaging, and refuse to endorse technologies that might reduce or eliminate the use of these all together. Take, for example, organic farming's adamant stance against genetically modified organisms (GMOs).
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Yet organic proponents refuse to even give GMOs a chance, even to the point of hypocrisy. For example, organic farmers apply Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) toxin (a small insecticidal protein from soil bacteria) unabashedly across their crops every year, as they have for decades. It's one of the most widely used organic pesticides by organic farmers. Yet when genetic engineering is used to place the gene encoding the Bt toxin into a plant's genome, the resulting GM plants are vilified by the very people willing to liberally spray the exact same toxin that the gene encodes for over the exact same species of plant. Ecologically, the GMO is a far better solution, as it reduces the amount of toxin being used and thus leeching into the surrounding landscape and waterways. Other GMOs have similar goals, like making food plants flood-tolerant so occasional flooding can replace herbicide use as a means of killing weeds. If the goal is protect the environment, why not incorporate the newest technologies which help us do so?
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Myth #4: It's all or none
The point of this piece isn't to vilify organic farming; it's merely to point out that it's not as black and white as it looks.
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What bothers me most, however, is that both sides of the organic debate spend millions in press and advertising to attack each other instead of looking for a resolution. Organic supporters tend to vilify new technologies, while conventional supporters insist that chemicals and massive production monocultures are the only way to go. This simply strikes me as absurd. Synthetic doesn't necessarily mean bad for the environment. Just look at technological advances in creating biodegradable products; sometimes, we can use our knowledge and intelligence to create things that are both useful, cheap (enough) and ecologically responsible, as crazy as that idea may sound.
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Much more at: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/
Atman
(31,464 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I will eat GMO's until the GMO cows come home.
If I am going to be offended by Conservative anti-science myths, then I will be equally offended by the anti-science myths current on my side of the political aisle.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)msongs
(67,395 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)The goal of recent GMO marketing has been to conflate terminology and muddy the waters around genetically modified crops systems that pair crops with pesticides like neonics and glyphosate. It is a tall order to try and separate "RoundUp Ready corn" from the increasing use of Round Up but they have lots of money to spend and even more to make.
Non-Myth 1: Recent studies looked at pesticide residues on conventional versus organic produce. The levels on organic produce were much lower on average and some samples show no residue at all. Myth-Busted BUSTED.
GMO Strawman, I mean.. Non-Myth 2: Consumers should be looking produce which has a high brix score (the amount of natural sugars ) since it correlates with the produce being grown in healthy, non-depleted soil. Adding N P and K to soil doesn't fill out the essential nutrients that may be lacking in over-used soils.
Meta analysis proves the assertions of the marketing piece in the OP to be false:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20359265
#2 Non-Myth-Busted BUSTED! Big time.
Non-Myth #3: There is no evidence that the use of GMO crop systems has resulted in lower pesticide use. Just the opposite. Whoever wrote this crap wants us to believe in the fairytales of 10 years when the truth is right here for all to see:
The company markets both as solutions to farmers' reliance on toxic chemicals. Bt crops "allow farmers to protect their crops while eliminating or significantly decreasing the amount of pesticides sprayed," Monsanto's website declares; and its Roundup Ready products have" allowed farmers to ... decrease the overall use of herbicides."
Both of these claims have withered as Monsanto's products have come to dominate US farm fields. Insects and weeds have evolved to resist them. Farmers have responded by unleashing a gusher of pesticidesboth higher doses of Monsanto's Roundup, and other, more-toxic chemicals as Roundup has lost effectiveness.
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/05/monsanto-syngenta-merger-45-billion-pesticides
GMO crop systems have failed just as critics said they would and we are now losing yield to RoundUp Ready weeds like palmer amaranth. Monsanto itself recommends that farmers plant a section of non-GMO corn, for example, in order to preserve some genetic variation and slow the adaptation of the corn borer worms who are quickly becoming immune to Bt corn such as MON810.
Non-Myth Bust #3 BUSTED like a cheap lawn chair.
Non-Myth #4 claims that the preceding marketing nonsense is 'fair and balanced.' Since none of the 3 myths busts held up we can't see how this claim is any more accurate here than it is on Fox News. Your tax dollars at work:
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33296-how-monsanto-solicited-academics-to-bolster-their-pro-gmo-propaganda-using-taxpayer-dollars
As a farmer and member of a farming community I would be happy to steer your science teacher friend toward better informed sources of information on this subject.
progressoid
(49,978 posts)Crinnion's services included sessions in which he held the patient's hand with one of his hands while she talked to him or while they sat quietly. During the sessions, which took place at his home, Crinnion asked himself questions while placing the third finger of his other hand over his index finger and pressing down to "test the strength" of his own second finger. In his deposition, he stated that the ability of his index finger to resist being pushed down indicated to him whether each question should be answered yes or no.
At various times, he pressed on the woman's back to "desensitize" her to whatever substances or emotions he imagined to be the problem. He also claimed to "balance her energy" with his hands by touching her head or moving his hands through the air two to four inches from her body [9]. In my report to the defense attorney, I summarized these sessions as "two people holding hands while one pays the other to press on her back and think to himself," Crinnion called the procedure "emotional NAET." I regard it as a combination of abuse and larceny.
http://forums.prohealth.com/forums/index.php?threads/naet-believers-long-but-please-read-this-and-reply-v-unsettled.131992/
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Science isn't based on ad hom fallacies but rather the majority of evidence and the analysis of data. All of these studies found higher nutrient content for organic over conventional:
British Journal of Nutrition:
In addition, the study concluded, conventionally grown foods are three to four times more likely to contain pesticide residues, and twice as likely to contain cadmium, a toxic heavy metal contaminant.
The findings are based on a review of 343 studies comparing nutrient and pesticide levels in conventionally and organically grown fruits, vegetables and seeds. Research reviews like these are often undertaken to present a clearer aggregate picture of studies on a given topic.
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=EDEF06281A38F0BCA4A8481238E0D33A.journals?aid=9325471&fileId=S0007114514001366
Consumer Reports:
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The health risks to children are significant. Even small amounts of pesticides may alter a childs brain chemistry during critical stages of development. One study of 8- to 15-year-olds found that those with the highest urinary levels of a marker for exposure to a particularly toxic class of pesticides called organophosphates (OPs) had twice the odds of developing attention deficit hyperactivity disorder as those with undetectable levels. Another study found that at age 7, children of California farmworkers born to mothers with the highest levels of OPs in their bodies while they were pregnant had an average IQ 7 points below those whose moms had the lowest levels during pregnancy. Thats comparable to the IQ losses children suffer due to low-level lead exposure.
The risk to adults is lower but still worrisome. Pesticide exposure likely increases the risk, first, of cancerous tumor development, and, second, your body not being able to control a tumor growth, says Charles Benbrook, Ph.D., a research professor at the Center for Sustaining Agriculture and Natural Resources at Washington State University and a consultant to Consumer Reports. In addition, research has linked endocrine disrupters with fertility issues, immune system damage, and neurological problems. However, unlike cancer, quantifying those effects is difficult at this time, Crupain says.
much more detail: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/health/natural-health/pesticides/index.htm
lakeguy
(1,640 posts)zalinda
(5,621 posts)I never use pesticides and I find that I really don't have to. No pests except for slugs, ugh.
If done correctly, organic is much better for the planet. If at all possible, a rotating piece of land should lie fallow for a year and compost the hell out of it. The better the soil, the fewer bugs, I have found. Whether or not the recommended rotation of crops is followed on all organic farms, is usually never asked. We do know that GMO's do not rest their land, but produce as much as it can, much the same way an unethical employer will treat it's employees.
This planet is a living organism and should be treated with respect. The land is giving us nourishment and we should nourish it back. Whether GMO's are good for a human body, is up for debate, but what it is doing to the earth is undeniable.
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HuckleB
(35,773 posts)OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)Published: December 9, 2013 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0082429
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[font size=3]Over the last century, intakes of omega-6 (?-6) fatty acids in Western diets have dramatically increased, while omega-3 (?-3) intakes have fallen. Resulting ?-6/?-3 intake ratios have risen to nutritionally undesirable levels, generally 10 to 15, compared to a possible optimal ratio near 2.3. We report results of the first large-scale, nationwide study of fatty acids in U.S. organic and conventional milk. Averaged over 12 months, organic milk contained 25% less ?-6 fatty acids and 62% more ?-3 fatty acids than conventional milk, yielding a 2.5-fold higher ?-6/?-3 ratio in conventional compared to organic milk (5.77 vs. 2.28). All individual ?-3 fatty acid concentrations were higher in organic milk?-linolenic acid (by 60%), eicosapentaenoic acid (32%), and docosapentaenoic acid (19%)as was the concentration of conjugated linoleic acid (18%). We report mostly moderate regional and seasonal variability in milk fatty acid profiles. Hypothetical diets of adult women were modeled to assess milk fatty-acid-driven differences in overall dietary ?-6/?-3 ratios. Diets varied according to three choices: high instead of moderate dairy consumption; organic vs. conventional dairy products; and reduced vs. typical consumption of ?-6 fatty acids. The three choices together would decrease the ?-6/?-3 ratio among adult women by ?80% of the total decrease needed to reach a target ratio of 2.3, with relative impact switch to low ?-6 foods > switch to organic dairy products ? increase consumption of conventional dairy products. Based on recommended servings of dairy products and seafoods, dairy products supply far more ?-linolenic acid than seafoods, about one-third as much eicosapentaenoic acid, and slightly more docosapentaenoic acid, but negligible docosahexaenoic acid. We conclude that consumers have viable options to reduce average ?-6/?-3 intake ratios, thereby reducing or eliminating probable risk factors for a wide range of developmental and chronic health problems.
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http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S0007114514001366
(Online publication July 15 2014)
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[font size=3]Demand for organic foods is partially driven by consumers' perceptions that they are more nutritious. However, scientific opinion is divided on whether there are significant nutritional differences between organic and non-organic foods, and two recent reviews have concluded that there are no differences. In the present study, we carried out meta-analyses based on 343 peer-reviewed publications that indicate statistically significant and meaningful differences in composition between organic and non-organic crops/crop-based foods. Most importantly, the concentrations of a range of antioxidants such as polyphenolics were found to be substantially higher in organic crops/crop-based foods, with those of phenolic acids, flavanones, stilbenes, flavones, flavonols and anthocyanins being an estimated 19 (95 % CI 5, 33) %, 69 (95 % CI 13, 125) %, 28 (95 % CI 12, 44) %, 26 (95 % CI 3, 48) %, 50 (95 % CI 28, 72) % and 51 (95 % CI 17, 86) % higher, respectively. Many of these compounds have previously been linked to a reduced risk of chronic diseases, including CVD and neurodegenerative diseases and certain cancers, in dietary intervention and epidemiological studies. Additionally, the frequency of occurrence of pesticide residues was found to be four times higher in conventional crops, which also contained significantly higher concentrations of the toxic metal Cd. Significant differences were also detected for some other (e.g. minerals and vitamins) compounds. There is evidence that higher antioxidant concentrations and lower Cd concentrations are linked to specific agronomic practices (e.g. non-use of mineral N and P fertilisers, respectively) prescribed in organic farming systems. In conclusion, organic crops, on average, have higher concentrations of antioxidants, lower concentrations of Cd and a lower incidence of pesticide residues than the non-organic comparators across regions and production seasons.
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HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Organic Milk Offers No Nutritional Boost Over Regular Milk
http://www.science20.com/inside_science/organic_milk_offers_no_nutritional_boost_over_regular_milk-153291
Organic milk 'is less healthy than regular milk and could harm child IQ'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11566395/Organic-milk-is-less-healthy-than-regular-milk-and-could-harm-child-IQ.html
Evaluating milk and its substitutes
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/evaluating-milk-and-its-substitutes/
No Health Benefits from Organic Food
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/no-health-benefits-from-organic-food/
Is organic food actually better? Heres what the science says
http://www.zmescience.com/other/science-abc/organic-food-science02092015/
New Organic Farming Meta-analysis What Does it Really Show?
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/new-organic-farming-meta-analysis-what-does-it-really-show/
The Ecological Case Against Organic Farming
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/09/10/is-organic-food-worth-the-expense/the-ecological-case-against-organic-farming
Six Reasons Organic Is NOT The Most Environmentally Friendly Way To Farm
http://www.science20.com/agricultural_realism/six_reasons_organic_not_most_environmentally_friendly_way_farm-110209
OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)Tuesday, October 20, 2015
[font size=3]RALEIGH, NC - A team of researchers from North Carolina State University set out to provide strawberry growers in their region with information that could help them transition to more sustainable soil and pest management production practices. Their study, published in the August 2015 issue of HortTechnology, compared conventional, compost, and organic strawberry production systems in the southeastern United States, and revealed good news for growers. All three systems resulted in positive net returns, and two showed "considerable reductions" in negative environmental and human health impacts.
According to the authors, the nonfumigated compost system and organic system evaluated resulted in reductions in negative environmental and human health impacts measured by a set of indicators. "For example, the total number of lethal doses (LD50) applied per acre from all chemicals used in each system and measuring acute human risk associated with each system declined from 118,000 doses/acre in the conventional system to 6649 doses/acre in the compost system and to 0 doses/acre in the organic system," the authors explained. "Chronic human health risk, groundwater pollution risk, and fertilizer use declined as well in the compost and organic systems as compared with the conventional system."
The scientists said that the report can be a guide for strawberry growers in the region who want to improve soil management practices, those who are considering starting new strawberry enterprises, or professionals who advise strawberry growers on business management decisions.
Although the compost system resulted in lower net returns than the conventional system ($11,100/acre as compared with $14,979/acre), the authors say it still has merits. "We believe that the compost system should be considered as economically viable transitional alternative to proactive growers who are interest to improve their soil quality, especially given any possible future restrictions on the use of fumigation and further deterioration in soil quality in the conventionally managed system," they said.
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OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)[font face=Serif][font size=5]Organic farming can reverse the agriculture ecosystem from a carbon source to a carbon sink[/font]
Science China Press
[font size=3]Approximately 35% of global greenhouse gases (GHGs) come from agriculture. Some argues that human can reverse global worming by sequestering several hundred billion tons of excess CO2 through regenerative, organic farming, ranching and land use. Increasing the soil's organic content will not only fix carbon and reduce emissions, it will also improve the soil's ability to retain water and nutrients and resist pests and droughts.
To mitigate GHG emissions and retain soil fertility, organic agriculture might be a wise choice for decreasing the intensive use of synthetic fertilizers, protecting environments, and further improving crop yields. Recent research showed that replacing chemical fertilizer with organic manure significantly decreased the emission of GHGs. Organic farming can reverse the agriculture ecosystem from a carbon source to a carbon sink.
To explore the potential of farmlands acting as a carbon sink without yield losses, Jiang Gaoming, a professor at the Chinese Academy of Sciences' Institute of Botany, conducted an experiment on a temperate eco-farm in eastern rural China. Crop residues were applied to cattle feed and the composted cattle manure was returned to cropland with a winter wheat and maize rotation. Crop yield and greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions were carefully calculated according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Guidelines for National Greenhouse Gas Inventories 2006.
This study showed that replacing chemical fertilizer with organic manure significantly decreased the emission of GHGs. Yields of wheat and corn also increased as the soil fertility was improved by the application of cattle manure. Totally replacing chemical fertilizer with organic manure decreased GHG emissions, which reversed the agriculture ecosystem from a carbon source (+ 2.7 t CO2-eq. hm-2 yr-1) to a carbon sink (- 8.8 t CO2-eq. hm-2 yr-1).
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HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Seriously?
That's just bizarre. Explain that, and I'll bother to note the nonsense you've offered.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Brought to you by Dow Chemical, Monsanto, & Syngenta
Must include photo of bucolic farm & cow~
We're not poisoning people & bees & bats & fish & butterflies! Thats just silly.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)The United States Department of Argiculute *USDA" did not even want to permit the use of the word "organic" because the USDA first role is to protect farmers (and then mostly large corporate farms). The best historical example of this is the "Victory Gardens" of WWII. When first proposes, the USDA OPPOSED "Victory Gardens" for it would hurt producers of vegetables in California. The USDA only came around to supporting Victory Gardens when it came to their attention many of the Farmers in the Imperial Valley pre 1941 had been Japanese Americans. When they were interned, many sold their farms to the "Okies" who had moved west during the Dust Bowl of the 1930s and ended up working on those farms. The Oakies had been Wheat Farmers NOT vegetable farmers and had to adjust, not only to owing land for the first times in years, but adjusting to vegetable farming based on irrigation (Something they had NOT done when wheat farmers in the Great Plains). It was only when it became clear these hurlles would reduce vegetable output from the Imperial Valley that the USDA came out for "Victory Gardens"
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/farmers-341701-japanese-victory.html
A similar situation occurred when it came to "Organic Farming". Congress passed the "Organic Food Production act of 1990" in 1990, but it took the USDA till 2000 to finally issue the regulations finally defining what "Organic" Meant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_Foods_Production_Act_of_1990
I love this sentence in the Wikipedia article on the Act:
Yes, heavy response ALL NEGATIVE to the loose definition the USDA first proposed.
When the USDA finally did issue its regulations, it came out with three definitions of "Organic":
100% Organic = 100% of ingredients are certified organic, excluding salt and water.
Certified Organic = 95% of ingredients are certified organic, excluding salt and water.
Made with Organic Ingredients = At least 70% of ingredients are certified organic, excluding salt and water.
No Label Claims = Less than 70% of ingredients are certified organic.
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs397
I do love how the USDA defines "Organic" in its regulations:
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=ff7236fcb2b1a0e48ab11f3128bf51a8&mc=true&node=pt7.3.205&rgn=div5#se7.3.205_12
Then there is Section 205.205 (2)
That exemption is huge enough to drive a tank through, or in the case of organic food, a lot of herbicides. Through Roundup is NOT on the "National List of synthetic substances allowed for use in organic crop production may be applied to prevent, suppress, or control pests, weeds, or diseases". The Documentation is NOT put on any label saying the food is Organic, just kept in records by the farmer. 205.602 is the "National List of synthetic substances allowed for use in organic crop production may be applied to prevent, suppress, or control pests, weeds, or diseases" they are talking about,
How the USDA monitor the Organic food program has been under attack for years i.e. to many ways to avoid being caught:
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/19/organic_foods_dirty_secret_what_the_seductive_label_fails_to_tell_you/
Just a comment that these test rely on "Organic" as it is defined by the USDA, and while the regulations are extensive, they are easily ignored.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Here's some of what they had to say~
By Tom Philpott
| Mon Jul. 25, 2011 6:47 PM EDT
Over on the Scientific American blog, Christie Wilcox set out to expose the "myths" of organic farming. Frankly, the piece was so poorly reasoned that I read it with a yawn. But people take Scientific American seriously (as they shouldit's a great publication) and the piece was received with credulity on Matt Yglesias' influential blog and at my former employer, Grist. (Grist has since published a critique of the Wilcox piece by Tom Laskawy).
Since some smart people seem to be buying what Wilcox is peddling here, let's look at her central claims.
1) Organic farms are seething hotbeds of toxic pesticide use. Wilcox notes, correctly, that organic farms are allowed to use certain non-synthetic pesticides. I agree the practice is problematic. Organic farming is built on the principle of on-farm ecological balancethat crop biodiversity should provide habitat for a variety of "beneficial insects," which should in turn keep crop-eating ones under control. Use of pesticides, even non-synthetic ones, represents a breakdown of that principle, and should be avoided by organic farmers.
But how much of a problem is pesticide use on organic farms? To hear Wilcox tell it, buyers of organic food are unwittingly getting all manner of pesticide traces on their produce. To back that up, she drops this dud of a bombshell:
Furthermore, just over 1% of organic foodstuffs produced in 2007 and tested by the European Food Safety Authority were found to contain pesticide levels above the legal maximum levelsand these are of pesticides that are not organic.
Just over 1 percent, eh? That means that just under 99 percent were found to be ok. Scary! It would be interesting to see how non-organic food fared in that study; Wilcox doesn't see fit to compare the two. Meanwhile, back here in the United States, the USDA collects data on pesticide traces on produce. In 2009, reports the Organic Center, the USDA analyzed 386 samples of organic lettuce, "by far the most extensive sampling of an organic food crop for pesticide residues ever carried out in the world." Again, "just over 1 percent" of the samples contained a pesticide residue not approved for use on organic farms, the OC reports. As for pesticides approved for organic use, 78 samples carried traces of those, meaning that 20 percent of organic produce carried a residue.
By contrast, the most recent USDA data on non-organic lettuce showed that the average sample carried residues of nealy four four distinct pesticides, the Organic Center reports.....
If you must, please read the rest of the story from 5 years ago~
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2011/07/organic-agriculture
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)He has no credibility with anyone who is serious about the science of agriculture. That includes serious pro-organic folks. If you doubt that, then spend some time discussing issues on Food and Farm Discussion Lab, for starters.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)And your source. LOL.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)You can't discuss the issue with actual science, so you rant with BS.
You are harming the planet.
You're using outdated info AND accusing a person you don't know of harming the planet.
Who has time for this? To what purpose?
Life is just too damn precious & short.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Thanks for confirming the silliness of you bad propaganda.
Nihil
(13,508 posts)Warpy
(111,245 posts)Organic farming represents a return to more sustainable agriculture, building the soil instead of mining the soil (their words, not mine).
What I'd like to see is a combination method decreasing monoculture, using crop rotation, building the soil instead of depleting it, and allowing for minimal pesticide use. In other words, let us spray but not unless the bugs are threatening the harvest, reducing the pesticide load in the environment and in runoff.
Zealots don't impress me. We need to change what we're doing in much of this country. Trying to do it completely without modern agricultural methods including pest control is a sure route to famine.
progressoid
(49,978 posts)He incorporates the best of both worlds. Ran into him last summer. He's not trying to make a statement or wave a flag. For him it's about doing his best as a farmer, father, and businessman. I doubt he would call himself an environmentalist (too much baggage with that term), but he kind of is. He knows his methods have to adapt. He even installed a huge wind generator for his farm.
The bigger problem around here is nitrate and nitrite run-off. So we're seeing a lot more "green manure" use (winter cover crops). It is helping soil health, but we still have the issue of run off from huge pork facilities.