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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 07:19 PM Oct 2015

Undercover Gunmen Open Fire At Palestinian Stone-Throwers

The video shows the plainclothes shooters working closely with the Israeli military.

At least two Palestinians were wounded by gunmen disguised as fellow protesters in a group of men throwing stones at Israeli security forces in Ramallah on Wednesday. After participating in the stone throwing, several gunmen suddenly drew their weapons and fired point blank at the Palestinians.

The plainclothes gunmen were immediately joined by over a dozen uniformed Israeli soldiers, who can be seen on video beating, kicking and pointing assault weaponry at the Palestinians before dragging them toward Humvee-style vehicles.

While the Israeli military reports that two Palestinians were injured in the gunfight, Agence France-Presse, which has posted video, counts three men among the injured.

The incident can also be seen in video posted by the Shehab News Agency:

Reuters reporter Luke Baker tweeted that the gunmen were undercover Israeli police officers who had been inciting the Palestinians to throw rocks at the soldiers before firing at the stone-throwers themselves.

Footage in Ramallah shows undercover #Israeli police throwing stones at Israeli forces and inciting #Palestinian youth to do the same
— Luke Baker (@LukeReuters) October 7, 2015




@
zpyarom I've been watching them operating. The undercover units ran back to Israeli troops and drew their weapons to fight back
— Luke Baker (@LukeReuters) October 7, 2015


There's the World's Most Moral Army for you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/israel-palestinian-protest-video_561589dbe4b0cf9984d84295


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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. What's with the cut in the video between 0:15 and 0:16?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 07:55 PM
Oct 2015

I wonder why the AP video has that jump happening there? What got cut out right before that moment that led to the change?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. I'm sure something that would exonerate the mista'aravim of any wrong doing otoh
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 08:05 PM
Oct 2015

weren't you trying to cast aspersions on my saying this was going on a couple of days ago?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=114375

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
4. The footage doesn't show undercover police throwing stones @ Israeli police
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:41 PM
Oct 2015

There's also no footage showing undercover police inciting Palestinians to throw rocks @ soldiers.

Nice journalism there.

Israeli

(4,139 posts)
8. You need to spend more of your time ....
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:42 AM
Oct 2015

...on Israeli Left wing web sites shira



WATCH: Israeli undercover agents shoot unarmed youth at point blank range

A video released Wednesday onto several social media accounts and published by several news outlets shows Israeli plainclothes undercover officers apparently shooting an unarmed Palestinian youth in the leg at point blank range, while other undercover officers hold him down.

The shooting and beating took place during clashes in between Ramallah and the Beit El settlement, which abuts the de facto Palestinian capital and hosts the army’s regional headquarters base.

Several video clips emerged on Wednesday, showing the Israeli plainclothes undercover officers wearing keffiyehs wrapped around their faces, infiltrating demonstrations in the West Bank and then either shooting toward demonstrators at close range with handguns, or assaulting them and dragging them away to military vehicles — presumably for transport to the local military jail.

Also .....

In 2012 Haaretz newspaper reported (Hebrew link) that the commanding officer of an undercover unit confirmed it was their practice to have plainclothes agents infiltrate Palestinian demonstrations and throw stones in the direction of soldiers while encouraging the Palestinian youth to follow suit, and then arrest them for throwing stones.

Continue reading and watching @ ......


http://972mag.com/watch-israeli-undercover-agents-shoot-unarmed-boy-at-point-blank-range/112474/

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
10. The 972 article doesn't make the claim that there's provocation in the videos...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:28 AM
Oct 2015

...just released within the past hours. It's simply not there. And that was my point.



The media & thousands of armchair humanists over there looking for anything to incite hate against Israel/Jews are far more guilty. THAT's no secret.

There are more people with cameras in Israel (than anywhere else in the world) hunting for hours, days, weeks, and months for something, anything to photograph or record. Sometimes they get something. Those attacking Jews play to the cameras. It's not a story when they attack. It's only a story if they can make the Israelis look bad in response. To portray the Israelis as attacking or killing innocents for no reason. Think it's a coincidence cameras & recorders are always there to get the story? They know what's about to happen. They expect it & those attacking Jews are eager to play to the cameras.



It's a game.

A very loathsome one at that, especially when child provocateurs are used to get a reaction for the camera & all the compassion abusing concern trolls who feast on these things.

Israeli

(4,139 posts)
17. Which article ?
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:54 AM
Oct 2015

This one :

In 2012 Haaretz newspaper reported (Hebrew link) that the commanding officer of an undercover unit confirmed it was their practice to have plainclothes agents infiltrate Palestinian demonstrations and throw stones in the direction of soldiers while encouraging the Palestinian youth to follow suit, and then arrest them for throwing stones.

You dont have to find it ....here is the link :

http://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/1.1700619

Everybody knows it goes on azurnoir.....its no secret over here .

The Americans on here like shira can deny it all they like ...they are just hiding their heads in the sand .

Before the cameras came it was easy ....they just called the Palestinians liars ....not so easy to do anymore is it ?

See : http://epalestine.blogspot.co.il/2015/10/epalestine-we-must-not-fall-into-this.html

It happened today, only five minutes from my house. Watch closely as the impostor (IDF) demonstrators (dressed as Palestinians) instigate violence to lure real Palestinians to clash, then capture them. If you watch even more closely, the "most moral army in the world" actually shoots point-blank the person they are trying to arresting in the leg while soldiers take turns punching and kicking him. Israel is begging for widespread violence, it is the only game book they have.


azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. It was English language
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 03:02 AM
Oct 2015

however even with cameras we're still told not to believe what we see, take for instance Mohammad al Dura

Israeli

(4,139 posts)
19. Seriously .....
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:56 AM
Oct 2015

....do you think posting it in English will make one iota of difference ?
you would just be wasting your time looking for it .

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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
7. Fascist murdering thugs...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:42 AM
Oct 2015

This could have happened in perhaps Egypt or Saudi Arabia, but never, ever, in a civilized country. Democratic countries don't use provocateurs, especially when the goal is to kill and maim demonstrators. This must be stopped, and the underover provocateurs should be prosecuted.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
9. There is no footage of Israeli provocateurs. If you see it...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:13 AM
Oct 2015

...in any of the video footage,kindly point out the exact time of the recording.

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