Israeli teen stabbed in Jerusalem in latest attack

[oberliner]

A Palestinian stabbed an Israeli teenager in Jerusalem on Friday morning, police reported.

The attacker fled the scene but was later caught by police. Early reports said he was an 18-year-old resident of Hebron in the West Bank.

The victim, approximately 16 years old, was lightly injured in the attack, according to emergency medical personnel at the scene.

He suffered from stab wounds to his upper body, but was in stable condition, Magen David Adom paramedics said.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-teen-stabbed-in-jerusalem-in-latest-attack/

[Israeli]

1. Arabs attacked by a crowd in Netanya.....

Arabs were attacked and chairs were thrown at them by a crowd Thursday night at Independence Square in Netanya. One of the victims, a resident of Qalansuwa, was injured and rescued by police called to the scene and required medical treatment. Chants of 'Death to Arabs' and 'Netanya residents are taking care of the Arabs'.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4708890,00.html

From Jerusalem to Jaffa ...to Tel Aviv and now Netanya.

All of this over this ....

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.678926

You want the freedom to pray on the Temple Mount oberliner ......well that is what has led us to this .

[shenmue]

6. Wow

"You want the freedom to pray on the Temple Mount oberliner ......well that is what has led us to this."

Now that's cold.

So stabbing people is okay, because people want to pray on the Temple Mount.

What is wrong with you?

[Scootaloo]

8. Nothing wrong with her. She just doesn't believe events exist in hermetically sealed bubbles

Last edited Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:38 PM - Edit history (2)

Unlike you, and many other posters here, where every event is completely unconnected to anything else, and can be discussed and thought about as unrelated to anything, Azurnoir recognizes the reality that pretty much everything is connected.

[Israeli]

11. Hey ....

....its her .....maybe I should change my avatar ?.....too many Bernies

[Scootaloo]

12. Missed the S while typing

Edited to fix!

[oberliner]

13. And yet it still says "him"

Might want to fix that too.

[Scootaloo]

14. ...Yup

Early-morning-not-knowing-who-I'm-referencing

[Israeli]

10. No shenmue......

Stabbing people is not okay ......neither is Right wings mobs running riot screaming death to arabs .

Neither is praying on the Temple Mount .

Netanyahu must take steps like showing seriousness about maintaining the status quo on the Temple Mount, or like bringing in observers – Palestinian or international, in uniform or plainclothed – to the site. But Netanyahu won’t be the leader to extricate Israel from its diplomatic stalemate and stop the occupation – which is the only way to achieve calm, reduce terror and produce a normal future for Israelis.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.678926

[Israeli]

22. That's it shenmue ....

Conversation over ?

Strange how you did not pick up on ... " From Jerusalem to Jaffa ...to Tel Aviv and now Netanya. "

Probably you have no idea how to find these places on a map ....with the exception of Jerusalem of course

The riots that took place in Jaffa have not even been mentioned on here ....but it shook Tel Aviv'ians out of their complacency ......

Wednesday saw some of the worst rioting in Jaffa between Jews and Arabs since the second intifada.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Morning-after-violent-riots-Jaffa-residents-take-stock-421227

More than anything though, its location next to the heart of Israel’s media and cultural elite means that things that happen in Jaffa can be magnified like almost nowhere else in Israel.

BTW ...a question ....since you started this conversation ....your avater ...what is it exactly ?

[King_David]

33. I looked it up : it is a Russian Orthodox Cross

http://www.mynatureapps.com/military-headstone-symbols/

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

15. "So stabbing people is okay, because people want to pray on the Temple Mount."

They don't want to pray. They want to take over, those poor victims.

Like anything that Israel does WRT the Palestinians, share = take.

The Palestinians are fed up with this constant assault of the poor victims who just want to "pray."


Enough is enough. The poor victims can pray at the Kotel or fuck off and stop assaulting Al Asqua Mount.

[oberliner]

16. "assaulting Al Asqua Mount?"

What are you even talking about at this point?

There is no one anywhere who refers to anything as "Al Asqua Mount" - even assuming you meant "Al Aqsa Mount".

I am starting to get the sense that you don't even know what these places are.

For instance, do you know the difference between Haram al-Sharif and the Al Aqsa Mosque?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

17. There is no temple, ober. Remember this gaff of yours???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=114467

Trivia Question: What is the Al Aqsa Mosque built on the ruins of?

Both geek tragedy and I knew. You ran and hid.

What an embarrassment your post was.


There's a Mosque on the Mount. There has been a mosque for some time: 1,400 years. There have been a few mosques on that location.


There is no temple. Israel, and its fawning mumblers should get over it and build elsewhere.

[oberliner]

23. Huh?

The mosque is built on the ruins of Royal Stoa basilica.

[azurnoir]

24. background on the basilica built by Herod the Great in he 1rst century BCE (before common era) or BC

The Royal Stoa (Hebrew: הסטיו המלכותי?, also known as the Royal Colonnade, Royal Portico, Royal Cloisters, Royal Basilica or Stoa Basileia) was an ancient basilica constructed by Herod the Great during his renovation of the Temple Mount at the end of the 1st century BCE. Probably Herod's most magnificent secular construction, the three-aisled structure was described by Josephus as deserving "to be mentioned better than any other under the sun." A center of public and commercial activity, the Royal Stoa was the likely location of Jesus' Cleansing of the Temple. The Royal Stoa overlooked Jerusalem's residential and commercial quarters, and at its southwestern corner was the place from which a ram's horn was blown to announce the start of holy days.

The Royal Stoa was destroyed by the Roman army during the sack of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Its site on the Temple Mount esplanade is currently inaccessible to archaeologists. However, artifacts from the Stoa have been recovered both from excavations at the foot of the platform and in secondary use in later constructions. This evidence has confirmed details given in the accounts of the historian Josephus, and has also allowed comparison of the Royal Stoa's decoration with that used in other, contemporaneous monumental buildings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Stoa_(Jerusalem)

[oberliner]

26. You really seem to like Wikipedia

There are many actual books cited in that Wikipedia entry that I would encourage you to read.

In any case, the mosque was built on the ruins of that basilica.

[azurnoir]

27. The basilica built in the 1rst century BC and destroyed in 70AD by the Romans was part of the temple

complex, so I am not sure what your point is

[oberliner]

28. This might help you understand

Check it out:

http://www.nelc.ucla.edu/Faculty/Schniedewind_files/Jerusalem/Holyland_Hotel_Model_Jerusalem.pdf

Good model of what things looked like before the destruction.

[azurnoir]

29. what it shows is that the structure you mention also known Royal Stoa was part of the Temple Mount

which is what I said, interesting pdf though

[King_David]

18. That poster is absolutely clueless

For some reason the poster thinks it's taking a pro Palestinian position or something by attempting to be more Palestinian and more "radical " than those who live there or have some kind of contact there.

But in the process is absolutely clueless.

"Al Aqsa Mount" ? nobody except for THIS poster even knows WTF that is.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

19. The mount has a Mosque on it. Only corrupt, extreme right wing zionists and transplants from

Brooklyn dream of building a temple there, but they do a pretty good job of harassing the local population cause they just gotta pray.

Face it, king. There is no temple there. It does not exist. If it did exist there it has been gone for 14-15 centuries.


It's Al Asqua Mount.

[oberliner]

25. There is nothing called "Al Asqua Mount"

Muslims refer to the Temple Mount as The Noble Sanctuary.

Do you know why that is?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

30. There is no temple either, there hasn't been for some time, and...

and who knows where they really stood to begin with?

[King_David]

31. Now this poster seems to be a critic of Jewish faith,

He knows the Jewish narrative that there was a temple there is not true and incorrect and knows now the Muslim narrative is true and correct, the ascension to heaven by Muhammed and all from a horse etc etc.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=114891

[shira]

32. Yes, yes...who knows whether the Temple existed?

"Face it, king. There is no temple there. It does not exist. If it did exist there it has been gone for 14-15 centuries."

[King_David]

34. LOL

[shira]

37. Funny, but not so much. The NYT did it the other day. n/t

[shira]

35. Jews shouldn't be denied access to any public place on Earth.

No one should.

Those who hate Jews so much that they'd deny Jews rights all other people have....are the problem.

Not Jews.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. And that's the sentiment of the right wing Jewish fundamentalists

that believe that they can just take over whatever they want and whenever they demand it.

They have the Kotel. Live with that and stop trying to take Al Asqa Mosque from the Muslims.

[shira]

38. Jewish fundamentalists aren't taking over anything from the Waqf....

...controlling the Mount.

In fact, Jordan sent at least 100 more troops before the recent riots at the Mount a few months ago. Israel did nothing to stop that, nor did they complain. Jordan has done nothing to keep the quiet there.

You've fallen for the incitement. Abbas and his cronies are doing the same thing Hitler's Mufti and Arafat's uncle Husayni did back in the 1920's and 30's when he screamed about Jews plotting to take over al-Aqsa.

Know your history.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

39. You keep on telling yourself that and you'll be just fine.

[azurnoir]

2. was it or was the the Israeli Jew who stabbed 4 Palestinians in Dimona more recent?

of course in that case it wasn't terrorism at all, he's just a youth with psychiatric issues according to Israeli authorities

Israeli youth stabs four Arabs in Dimona attack

The suspect, who reports said has a criminal background and a history of psychiatric issues, confessed to the stabbing, saying that he thought all Arabs were “terrorists.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-man-stabs-three-palestinians-in-dimona-attack/

[oberliner]

3. This was after that attack

And that attack was identified as terrorism and the Jewish suspect was arrested, his past history of mental health issues notwithstanding.

[azurnoir]

4. ya by an hour or so the youth was restrained and is in custody it was identified as nationalistic

in motive as opposed to terrorism which is often used to justify shooting first when the suspect is Palestinian

or IOW Jewish attacker=psychiatric problems

Arab/Palestinian attacker=terrorist

we see that same sort of thing in the US too depending on the race of the attacker

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. You don't understand the advanced capabilities of the

modern IDF / IPD in that they can percieve the intent or motives of the attacker and use summary judgement to cull the terrorist threat.

It just so happens that Palestinians fall into that category.

[oberliner]

9. The article from JPost calls the Dimona attacker a Jewish terrorist

Four Arab men were wounded Friday morning in Dimona in a stabbing attack carried out by a Jewish terrorist for nationalist reasons.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Revenge-attacks-on-the-rise-Four-injured-in-Dimona-stabbings-by-Jew-421420

[azurnoir]

21. well that's nice that JPost says that Netanyahu however does not

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office reported that he strongly condemned the attack against innocent Arabs.

"Israel is a country of law and order. Those who use violence and break the law – from whatever side – will be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law," the Prime Minister said.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4708905,00.html

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. Well it's refreshing that you can call him a

suspect instead of a terrorist as well as the police not shooting him on sight.

I wonder if the IDF and Israeli police consider emotional issues when they gun down Palestinian terrorists.

[Little Tich]

20. At least nobody was killed this time.

Unfortunately, I don't know which sources to trust anymore concerning who is attacking who. All I can see is that things are going pear-shaped, and that while both sides are to blame, it's Netanyahu's tough stance that causes most of the deaths.