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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:24 PM Oct 2015

PM rebukes deputy FM for dreaming of Israeli flag on Temple Mount

Sure, just about innocent mumbling of prayers and interfaith dialogue . . . any suggestion that rightwing Israelis want to usurp that area is Nazi incitement that is a complete lie

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-warns-all-government-members-to-act-accordingly/

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned members of his government on Monday night to “act accordingly,” hours after his deputy foreign minister, Tzipi Hotovely, also from his Likud party, said her dream was for the Israeli flag to fly over the Temple Mount.

...

The prime minister “made ​​it clear that he expects all members of the government to act accordingly,” Netanyahu’s office said in the statement, in a clear rebuke of the deputy foreign minister

...

Hotovely said Monday that the site was “the center of Israeli sovereignty, the capital of Israel, the holiest place for the Jewish people.”

It’s my dream to see the Israeli flag flying on the Temple Mount,” she said in an interview with the Knesset channel.

...
Hotovely, who favors the annexation of the West Bank and opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state, has made public visits to the Temple Mount in recent years along with a handful of other right-wing Israeli lawmakers. She recently said that any international observers placed on the Temple Mount would be a violation of Israel’s sovereignty.

“If I were to tell the prime minister what’s correct, in my eyes it’s definitely not proper to see the flags of the Islamic State or Hamas,
in my eyes that’s a disgrace,” she said. “We need to fly the [Israeli] flag. This is the capital of Israel and this is the holiest place for the Jewish people.”


Just a reminder that Israel's top diplomat is crazier and more rightwing than Michelle Bachmann.
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PM rebukes deputy FM for dreaming of Israeli flag on Temple Mount (Original Post) geek tragedy Oct 2015 OP
Ironic thing is that in her version of Israel, the Mount would be open to all faiths.... shira Oct 2015 #1
So now Netanyahu is a member of the geek tragedy Oct 2015 #2
No, but way to avoid the argument.... shira Oct 2015 #3
You sure do hate the left. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #4
Not the sane Left Democrats in power. shira Oct 2015 #5
Can you name a single Democrat geek tragedy Oct 2015 #6
No one sane argues that in Israel, let alone any Democrats. n/t shira Oct 2015 #7
Hotevely just did, and you came flying to her defense. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #8
She's not sane. Get it? n/t shira Oct 2015 #9
"She's not sane." She's another face of corrupt zionism. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #11
"She's not sane." But if you are defending her then what does that make you? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #12
Who says I'm defending her? I'm saying that as silly as she is.... shira Oct 2015 #14
The poster your engaging is not "left" King_David Oct 2015 #15
Irony alert! R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #16
How to Identify and Defeat an Internet Troll shira Oct 2015 #17
Have you met Mr. Kettle yet. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #19
Very apt King_David Oct 2015 #23
..... Israeli Oct 2015 #18
The irony is lost on some. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #20
so now people are "Israel-hating Zombies" if they oppose the illegal Israeli settlements? geek tragedy Oct 2015 #24
Nah, most Zionists oppose settlements. They're not Israel hating zombies. shira Oct 2015 #25
Ummmmmm . . . geek tragedy Oct 2015 #26
What's your point? n/t shira Oct 2015 #27
But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #10
It's like having Ted Cruz in the cabinet oberliner Oct 2015 #13
"It's like having Ted Cruz in the cabinet" R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #21
The equivalent of the Democrats are calling for him (her) to be fired oberliner Oct 2015 #22
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
1. Ironic thing is that in her version of Israel, the Mount would be open to all faiths....
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:52 PM
Oct 2015

Meanwhile, it's the radical Global Progressive Israel hating Left that demands the Temple Mount be ruled by gay-bashing, women-hating, and Jew-killing Hamas supremacists who fear sharing the holiest place on the planet with people of other faiths.

Hotovely - 1
Haters - 0

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. So now Netanyahu is a member of the
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:56 PM
Oct 2015
radical Global Progressive Israel hating Left


Thanks for the laugh, shira, as usual.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. No, but way to avoid the argument....
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:00 PM
Oct 2015

If the anti-Imperialist, Israel hating Left had their way - they would side with Hamas supremacists, banning all non-Muslims from the site. Netanyahu doesn't believe that - he's just trying to avoid more violence and death. And good for him...

As ridiculous as Hotovely is, her vision is a Temple Mount open to all faiths.


Hotovely - 1
Haters - 0

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. You sure do hate the left.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:01 PM
Oct 2015

Almost as much as you hate having Muslims in charge of Haram Al-Sharif/Temple Mount.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
5. Not the sane Left Democrats in power.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:02 PM
Oct 2015

Of course, they're probably all right wingers to you.

Makes it simple to ignore them.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Can you name a single Democrat
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:04 PM
Oct 2015

who thinks Israel should declare its sole authority over the Haram Al-Sharif/Temple Mount.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Hotevely just did, and you came flying to her defense.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:17 PM
Oct 2015

You hatefully denounced anyone on the left who disagrees with her.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
14. Who says I'm defending her? I'm saying that as silly as she is....
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:28 PM
Oct 2015

....her views are magnitudes more tolerant than any Israel-hating Zombie offended by seeing Jews on the Temple Mount or living within historic Judea.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
17. How to Identify and Defeat an Internet Troll
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:49 AM
Oct 2015

Have you ever met an internet troll? A troll is a special class of sociopath.

These nasty individuals are the sadistic ne'er-do-wells of the digital realm, the misanthropic misfits of information age. Unlike a normal person, when a troll enters an online discussion, he is not seeking truth or clarification. He usually doesn't even know how to debate in an intelligent manner. All he wants to do is inflict pain, ridicule, and humiliation on a targeted person.

...Suddenly, someone, usually anonymous or using a nickname (pseudonym), starts attacking you. They may use filthy language, wild insults, and crazy misinterpretations. Often they will put words in your mouth, along the lines of "So what you're saying is...." or "Nutjobs like you are only interested in ...."

The main tool of the troll is accusation. It's a form of psychological torture, to break you down by turning your words against you, twisting your statements and pounding away at one aspect of your viewpoint. No matter what you declare, the troll will question you as a person. Understand this immediately: it's you as a person that they are attacking.

Personal attacks are often banned in forums, and not tolerated in blogs and social networks. Administrators tend to block and remove anyone who engages in trollish behavior.

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more...
http://www.peorian.com/technology/technology-news/trolls-cyberbullies/1079-how-to-identify-and-defeat-an-internet-troll

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. so now people are "Israel-hating Zombies" if they oppose the illegal Israeli settlements?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:41 AM
Oct 2015

Funny, I have never heard a single person who isn't a rightwinger make that argument.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
25. Nah, most Zionists oppose settlements. They're not Israel hating zombies.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:51 PM
Oct 2015

You didn't know this?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
26. Ummmmmm . . .
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:22 PM
Oct 2015
any Israel-hating Zombie offended by seeing Jews on the Temple Mount or living within historic Judea.


 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
10. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:24 PM
Oct 2015

but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,

but, but, but, but, but, excuse #17.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. It's like having Ted Cruz in the cabinet
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:27 PM
Oct 2015

And Donald Trump as president.

Both of which are frighteningly distinct possibilities here in America.

(Or Ben Carson who is a weird combination of the two in the most disturbing ways)

As for the OP, I agree with Yoel Hasson of the Zionist Union, who called on Netanyahu to dismiss her immediately.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. The equivalent of the Democrats are calling for him (her) to be fired
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:25 AM
Oct 2015

Yoel Hasson of the Zionist Union called on Netanyahu to dismiss her immediately.

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