Israel/Palestine
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-spied-on-netanyahu-for-info-on-anti-iran-deal-lobbying-report/...
Though Obama promised in 2013 to curb American spying on foreign leaders, following revelations of NSA spying on allies leaked by whisteblower Edward Snowden, an official said the idea of stopping tracking Netanyahu was barely entertained.
Going dark on Bibi? Of course we wouldnt do that, the paper quoted as senior US administration official saying, using a nickname for the prime minister.
The Israeli government has richly earned this kind of treatment.
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)aranthus
(3,385 posts)that the US spies on everyone or almost everyone, and that all or almost all of everyone else spies on us? I understand that the anti-Israel crowd needs to always find some way to spin news to make Israel look bad, but this is reaching, don't you think?
King_David
(14,851 posts)But hey anything to make Israel look bad.
aranthus
(3,385 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the reality of the relationship
aranthus
(3,385 posts)If you didn't think it put Israel in a bad light, then you wouldn't have written that the Israeli government deserves this treatment. Especially true if you realized that this treatment is par for the course between virtually all states that can afford an intelligence service. But you think Israel deserves it, and not say Germany? Of course you use this to put Israel in a bad light.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)aranthus
(3,385 posts)All countries spy on each other to the extent of their abilities and needs. That's why your post was of little import except for you to say that Israel deserved it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)When it's Israel, different story.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Angela Merkel's call to Obama: are you bugging my mobile phone?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/23/us-monitored-angela-merkel-german
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Why would it shock me they were bugging Bibis calls ?
Israel and Germany both among the most important allies of the USA .
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Because Germany is an important NATO ally.
When we piss the Israelis off, it may or may not be a domestic political problem, but it's never a diplomatic crisis. Because we don't care what they think outside of domestic political considerations.
King_David
(14,851 posts)But nobody is buying it.
Ask the Democratic Party candidates how important the USA relationship with Israel is and if anyone of them would agree with your OTT rhetoric on Israel.
Keep trying though but your anti Israel rhetoric is 180 degrees of that of the Democratic Party candidates or reps.
Keep trying...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)being an important ally.
Why don't we have a mutual self-defense treaty with Israel?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Why don't we have a Tel Aviv hotel in Vegas like Paris does ? goddamitt!