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Mosby

(16,262 posts)
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 12:39 PM Jul 2021

Dear Ben and Jerry: Ignorance is Not a Jewish Value

In a joint op-ed this week in The New York Times, the founders of Ben & Jerry’s, Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, gave their “unequivocal support” to their company’s recent announcement to end business in “Occupied Palestinian Territory.”

“While we no longer have any operational control of the company we founded in 1978,” they wrote, “we’re proud of its action and believe it is on the right side of history. In our view, ending the sales of ice cream in the occupied territories is one of the most important decisions the company has made in its 43-year history.”

...


Had Ben and Jerry gone beyond the one-sided clichés of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, they would have learned, for example, that the biggest enemy of the Palestinian people is their own corrupt leadership. For decades, these despots have marinated their society in Jew-hatred, while funding and glorifying terrorism and using international aid to fatten their bank accounts. It’s not a coincidence that these failed leaders have rejected three Israeli peace offers that would have ended the occupation.

https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/columnist/editors-note/339212/dear-ben-and-jerry-ignorance-is-not-a-jewish-value/

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Budi

(15,325 posts)
1. UNILEVER owns Ben & Jerrys, who sold out to Global Corporatists
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jul 2021
Unilever plc is a British multinational consumer goods company headquartered in London, England.
Unilever products include food, condiments, ice cream, wellbeing vitamins, minerals and supplements, tea....


Sold Out their brand to a Multinationalist Corporation.

They can drop their 'grassroots' bs now.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
2. Nope
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 02:16 PM
Jul 2021

the biggest enemy of the Palestinian people is their own corrupt leadership

Those residing in the fascist Likud's outdoor prison, otherwise known as Gaza, as well as those in the West Bank who have had their land stolen by the fascist Likud, would vehemently disagree, as would 95+% of the nations around the globe.


It’s not a coincidence that these failed leaders have rejected three Israeli peace offers that would have ended the occupation.

Utter fantasy.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. And having no leader give free reign to HAMAS
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 02:51 PM
Jul 2021

That is Palestines 1st critical order if a future of peace for it's people is ever to exist.

Terrorist funded HAMAS has got to pack up & leave.
Nothing good happens as long as they run rampannt. The Palestinian people mean nothing to HAMAS.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
5. Except
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 09:43 PM
Jul 2021

Not a supporter of Hamas, or Fatah for that matter, however:

1) At this point, Hamas could likely win an election and unify Gaza and the West Bank, which is why the fascist Likud is doing everything possible to prevent elections from occurring.

2) According to the 'Geneva Declaration on Terrorism', which the U.S. is a signatory to, fighting back against Illegal Military Occupation is NOT terrorism:

peoples who are fighting against colonial domination and alien occupation and against racist regimes in the exercise of their right of self-determination have the right to use force to accomplish their objectives... Such lawful uses of force must not be confused with acts of international terrorism.

The fascist Likud has been attempting to falsely conflate Palestinians with terrorism for years. You're merely regurgitating false fascist propaganda.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. Wow. You are incorrect. And calling me "merely regurgitating false fascist propaganda".
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 12:44 AM
Aug 2021

Is really as insulting as you can get .
That is completely incorrect & you've spent time here specifically opposing the OP, ending your "opinion" by calling ME "regurgitating false fascist propaganda"

Holee fk.

Have your "OPINION but keep the personal fascist hit at me, off this forum.

Apologize ....

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
7. HAH
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:58 PM
Aug 2021
That is completely incorrect...

False.

I'm afraid the 'Geneva Declaration on Terrorism' DISAGREES with you.


...the personal fascist hit at me..

Eh, care to delineate EXACTLY where I supposedly called you a fascist?

Oh wait. You can't. I didn't.


Apologize ....

I have NOTHING to apologize for, I simply stated the FACTS, but apparently you can't handle the truth.
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
8. Bs. YOUR QUOTE: "You're merely regurgitating false fascist propaganda."
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 03:03 PM
Aug 2021

"You're merely regurgitating false fascist propaganda."


YOU'RE (YOU ARE) MERELY REGURGITATING FALSE FASCIST PROPAGANDA"

Who did you direct that to if not me?
"..You're merely regurgitating false fascist propaganda."

Good time to Ignore WHITT since a simple reply of correction & a mea culpa is beyond its capacity to recognize the insult directed my way.

YOU'RE (YOU ARE) MERELY REGURGITATING FALSE FASCIST PROPAGANDA"

You may have your "opinion" but keep the personal smear out of here.

Way to interject "fascism" into an OP about Jewish values.





WHITT

(2,868 posts)
9. Apparently You Can't Read
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 06:58 PM
Aug 2021
WHO claimed the factual statement wasn't directed at you? YOU posted it.

What it was NOT was a "personal fascist hit" at you, merely a statement of FACT.

Now, I don't know if you knowingly or unknowingly regurgitated propaganda, that's on you, but it is a simple FACT that you regurgitated FALSE fascist RightWing Likud propaganda.

And the idea that you are now trying to claim fake outrage because you were posting about "Jewish values" is pathetic.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. Walk it back..slowly. 🙄..."regurgitating fascist propaganda" were YOUR exact words to me..
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:11 PM
Aug 2021

"Now, I don't know if you knowingly or unknowingly regurgitated propaganda, that's on you.."

YOU ACCUSED IT. Now you don't know?


Psst..you omitted the word fascist in your "walk it back" statement.

"Now, I don't know if you knowingly or unknowingly regurgitated propaganda, that's on you.."


Here's from your original statement accusing me:

"regurgitating fascist propaganda"


Why'd you omit the word fascist in this "walk-it-back" post?


WHITT

(2,868 posts)
12. You STILL Cannot Read
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 11:49 AM
Aug 2021

From my last post:

it is a simple FACT that you regurgitated FALSE fascist RightWing Likud propaganda.

I provided the evidence for you to prove that FACT. If you don't like someone pointing out that FACT, stop doing it.

sabbat hunter

(6,827 posts)
16. under the Geneva convention
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:03 PM
Aug 2021

they are allowed to fight back against an illegal military occupation. HOWEVER, they are NOT allowed to target civilians, which is what Hamas does. By targeting civilians, it is terrorism by hamas, not a lawful fight against an occupation.

sabbat hunter

(6,827 posts)
21. YEs
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:59 AM
Aug 2021

It is amazing how uninformed you are about what the Geneva convention covers, and about politics in Israel.

Response to sabbat hunter (Reply #21)

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. I can't believe anyone would refer to a Jew, ANY Jew, as a "fascist". Surprised you didn't refer....
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:09 PM
Aug 2021

....to what you call "the fascist Likud's outdoor prison" as a concentration camp.

So in your eyes, Jew (ANY Jew) = Fascist?

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
13. Another One Can't Read
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 11:52 AM
Aug 2021
WHERE, in any of my posts in this thread, did I post even the word "Jew"?

You're being ridiculous.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. You said "fascist Likud's outdoor prison" - Likud is an Israeli political party made up of Jews.
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 01:44 PM
Aug 2021

So who in that "fascist Likud" party were you referring to that is NOT Jewish?

Israeli

(4,139 posts)
19. I doubt you or WHITT
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 06:38 AM
Aug 2021

know anything about Israeli society or our politics but "fascist" is a term used over
here regularly .

An example :

BENNY BEGIN: 'SINGLING OUT SO-CALLED TRAITORS IS AN OLD-FASHIONED FASCIST TECHNIQUE THAT IS BOTH UGLY AND DANGEROUS'

Right-wing MKs flog ‘fascist’ group for ‘outing’ lefty artists
Im Tirtzu blasted over campaign listing members of Israel’s cultural elite who have expressed support for left-wing causes


Source : https://www.timesofisrael.com/likud-mk-pummels-fascist-group-for-outing-lefty-artists/

Plus the worst offenders here for using Nazi terminology such as your example of " a concentration camp. "
are our religious Right wing especially the settler movement who actually called our soldiers Nazis during the
withdrawal from Gaza and dressed Rabin in Nazi uniform before his assasination .

Response to George II (Reply #10)

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