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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:27 PM Jul 2012

M.T.A. Violated First Amendment Rights of Pro-Israel Group, Judge Says

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"A federal judge in Manhattan ruled on Friday that the Metropolitan Transportation Authority violated the First Amendment rights of a pro-Israel advocacy group when it rejected advertisements the group wanted to place on city buses because the agency said the ads contained demeaning language.

The group, the American Freedom Defense Initiative, had wanted to place text-only advertisements that said, “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.”

Then, between two Stars of David, the advertisement said: “Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.”

The transportation agency said that the ad violated its prohibition on advertisements that demeaned individuals or groups on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin and several other listed categories. The group was given the opportunity to revise the advertisement, but it refused, arguing that the “no-demeaning standard” was a violation of the First Amendment."

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"The group seeking to place ads is run by Pamela Geller, a conservative blogger and outspoken critic of Islam whose group ran ads on city buses in 2010 that opposed construction of an Islamic center near ground zero."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/nyregion/mta-violated-rights-of-pro-israel-group-judge-says.html

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M.T.A. Violated First Amendment Rights of Pro-Israel Group, Judge Says (Original Post) Scurrilous Jul 2012 OP
Horrible. That language is insulting. sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #1
Sure it is Mosby Jul 2012 #2
This is pretty extraordinary really... shaayecanaan Jul 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author shaayecanaan Jul 2012 #8
Good enough azurnoir Jul 2012 #3
Advocating terrorism is completely different EleazarV Jul 2012 #5
so you are claiming anyone that supports a Palestinian State is promoting azurnoir Jul 2012 #6
Palestinian settles NYC suit over 'Bruno' film Scurrilous Jul 2012 #4
I hope he took him to the cleaners... shaayecanaan Jul 2012 #7

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
8. This is pretty extraordinary really...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:05 AM
Jul 2012

as I read it, pretty much anything you could put on a sign at a rally, you can put on the back of a bus - and the transport authority has to say yes.

Such as: "In the struggle between the oppressed and an apartheid, racist state, support the oppressed. Support Palestine."

As far as I can see, you can't allow one without allowing the other. Im not sure if the Transport Authority will want to deal with that. More likely than not, they will simply contract out the ad space to a consulting company who has far more leeway to say yes or no.

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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
3. Good enough
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jul 2012

then ProPalestinian ads should be allowed too, unless of course there is a different standard

EleazarV

(14 posts)
5. Advocating terrorism is completely different
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:30 AM
Jul 2012

Free speech doesn't include yelling "fire" in a theatre. Similarly it does not cover advocating the genocide of the Jewish race, no matter how subtly and indirectly it might be done.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. so you are claiming anyone that supports a Palestinian State is promoting
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:36 AM
Jul 2012

is supporting the genocide of "the Jewish race"?

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
4. Palestinian settles NYC suit over 'Bruno' film
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 08:19 AM
Jul 2012

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"A Palestinian grocer portrayed as a terrorist in the movie "Bruno" has settled his slander suit against film star Sacha Baron Cohen and David Letterman, his lawyer said Thursday.

Ayman Abu Aita's "case is settled to the mutual satisfaction" of everyone involved, attorney Joseph Peter Drennan said. Court records show the case was designated settled and closed Wednesday.

Drennan wouldn't discuss the terms. Lawyers for Baron Cohen, Letterman and other defendants involved with the movie and Letterman's "Late Show" didn't immediately return calls.

In the 2009 comedy, Baron Cohen plays an Austrian fashion journalist aiming to make peace in the Middle East. He interviews Abu Aita, who's labeled in a caption as a member of the militant Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade.

Baron Cohen discussed Bruno's encounter with a "terrorist" on Letterman's show on CBS.

A Christian and "a peace-loving person" who was living in the West Bank, Abu Aita has never associated with the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade or any terrorist activity, his court papers said.

He went to the interview that appeared in "Bruno" thinking he was talking to a journalist about peace activism, his court complaint said. Instead, the movie spurred death threats against him, damaged his business and made him fear for his family's safety, the complaint said."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57476541/palestinian-settles-nyc-suit-over-bruno-film/

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
7. I hope he took him to the cleaners...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:57 AM
Jul 2012

I personally liked the Ali G show, but everything he's done since (making fun of gypsies, Muslims and just about every minority that crosses his path) while at the same time trying to wax lyrical about anti-semitism is pretty breathtaking hypocrisy really.

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