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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:39 AM Jul 2012

An open letter to Mitt Romney

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But the real problem with what your advisors are telling you are not the facts about U.S.-Israel relations over the past four years—after all, these can easily be distorted and discarded, as so often happens in election campaigns—but rather the facts about American Jews. Two facts in particular.

Fact number 1: Israel is not the top concern of American Jews, not even close. To be sure, most American Jews, roughly two-thirds, care a lot about Israel. They don’t want anything bad to happen to it, and they do want the United States to support it. But Israel is not what’s uppermost in their minds when they enter the voting booth. As long as they are confident that U.S. military and diplomatic support for Israel is not in jeopardy (and they have every reason to be), American Jews will vote according to who they think will be the best president for the United States, not for Israel.

In other words, American Jews vote as Americans, first and foremost. Like other Americans, what matters to them are the economy, healthcare, education and social issues like same-sex marriage and abortion. Only a very small minority cares more about Israel than anything else, most of them Orthodox Jews who are politically conservative and right-wing about Israel.

Which brings me to fact number 2: When it comes to domestic American issues, American Jews are decidedly liberal, maybe a bit less so than they were in the past, but still pretty liberal, especially when compared to those of a similar income level. While the reasons for American Jewish liberalism have long been a subject of debate among political scientists and sociologists - and a cause for much annoyance among Jewish neo-conservatives - the Jewish commitment to liberalism in the United States, which borders on a quasi-religious zeal, has persisted over many decades. Unfortunately for you, there is no indication that it is weakening now.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/an-open-letter-to-mitt-romney.premium-1.454603

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holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
1. I don't remember...
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 10:02 AM
Jul 2012

... Ha'aretz write an open letter to Barack Obama chastising him for visiting Israel during his campaign in 2008?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. Ha'aretz didn't write it, they just published it.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 10:05 AM
Jul 2012

They publish all kinds of stuff, most of it sort of leftist, but not all.

LeftishBrit

(41,203 posts)
4. I don't think the writer (it's not an editorial) is chastizing Romney for visiting Israel
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

He is chastizing Romney for using his visit to Israel as a vehicle for trying to get votes by supporting right-wing supposedly pro-Israel policies.

No one has objected to Obama's visits to the UK, and we didn't really object to Romney coming as such, but we did object to his idiotic and unpleasant behaviour when here.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
11. Correctly so.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 03:19 PM
Aug 2012

It does appear to be the election year pilgrimage, but Romney seems more blatant about it than his predecessors

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
5. This American Jew is most concerned with foreign policy in general, where Romney stinks
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jul 2012

Also, the economy, where Romney stinks. And as for the economy, it's not a question of liberal or conservative. It's about what will work. Cutting taxes ala Romney won't get the econmoy going, because the problem is lack of demand, not lack of capital. Give a business a tax break and it still won't hire people unless there is a business reason to hire. And without demand, there's no reason to bring on new employees.

One other point. Romney's fawning about Israel is perceived by American Jews as pandering, insincere, and dangerous. I don't want the American President to be more pro-Israel than Israelis.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. " I don't want the American President to be more pro-Israel than Israelis. "
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jul 2012

when you put it that way it could be almost more like 'killing them with kindness' that goes doubly for Christian Zionists

Violet_Crumble

(35,955 posts)
8. Are all the articles at Ha'aretz blocked for non-subscribers?
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:51 AM
Jul 2012

I couldn't see that one either, and as much as I find Ha'aretz an excellent source for articles, I'm not going to pay to subscribe to what should be free online content, at least not at the exhorbitant prices I saw quoted on the site...

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. No - just some premium content
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 06:09 AM
Jul 2012

Many of the articles are free - but a fair number of them are behind a paywall.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
12. when they first started that I signed up for an account it was free
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 04:08 PM
Aug 2012

for awhile articles were blocked then they all came back including this one and I still haven't paid them anything

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. No, but sometimes things comes up anyway.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:06 AM
Jul 2012

I find if you access from a concentrator (Google, Yahoo, NewsNow.UK) it comes up, the same stuff that other times you get a snippet and the paywall message. This was one of those. I couldn't find it anywhere else, and it's an important point, so I went with it.

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