Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumWith settlers' help, Palestinians to get new homes
Three years ago, the Palestinian communities in Area C found an improbable advocate in Eliaz Cohen, a poet and member of the Yesha Council who was shocked to learn of the inadequate living conditions in the village of Hirbat Zachariah. "The conditions there were substandard," he said. "The overcrowding is terrible and children are forced to leave the villages when they grow up because there is no authorization to build new homes.
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Residents of Hirbat Zachariah, located within the cluster of settlements dubbed Gush Etzion, have a long history of friendly relations with the surrounding Jewish communities. And so Cohen decided to enlist his fellow settlers to fight their Palestinian neighbors' fight.
An article Cohen published in an area newspaper was initially treated as a joke, but the initiative kicked into high gear after it received the backing of Gush Etzion Regional Council Head Davidi Perl and his predecessor, Shaul Goldstein. The settlers began pressing the Civil Administration and Defense Minister Ehud Barak to authorize construction, raising the issue at every meeting with army officials.
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4285716,00.html
ReasonableToo
(505 posts)Sounds like Israel has a 99% movement that wants life and peace for all.
Good for Cohen.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)fancy that
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)The idea of segregation and division is catastrophic. It would be a catastrophe both on the human level - deepening the mutual demonization of the "one-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence" - as well as on an economic-security-existential level, for both nations. Even if an independent Palestinian state is established inside the tiny borders proposed, it would still be based on a model comprised of a strong side and a weak side, and which would eventually explode.
http://center.theparentscircle.org/Content.aspx?ID=133
If a Palestinian held a viewpoint such as this, you would call him a Nazi.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)When people with disagreeable views actually do the right thing, it's generally considered a positive development - but I see you'd rather trot out the "if this was a Palestinian, you'd call him a Nazi" garbage.
How about - good job, maybe this will open his eyes and change his perspective.
I guess it's more fun going the other way.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)particularly given that I am an advocate of free speech. I think this person is well-intended and sincere and that his views deserve a hearing.
However, I understand that on your side of the fence, the collective attitude towards the idea of a OSS goes a bit like this:-
One-state solution = destruction of Israel as a Jewish state = anti-semitism = Nazi.
That's not garbage. That's demonstrably true. Do I really need to go back and dredge up old posts to prove it?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I'm just saying - why go there?
And please don't put me on the same side of the fence with anyone who would call an advocate of the one-state solution a Nazi. I can state with confidence that I have never made any such statement. And, in fact, find that to be a repulsive characterization.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)I would go so far as to say that you are the Shepard Smith of your contemporaries. Nevertheless, you would be acutely aware that the other pro-Israel posters here are, in general, not quite so moderate.
See here, for example:-
That's the question I always ask advocates of 'One State' - meaning the antisemitic act of eliminating Israel as a Jewish State, the one Jewish State alongside 57 Muslim States.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113416921
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is there such a case or were you using hyperbole?
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)but I think that I've done enough to demonstrate my point.
shira
(30,109 posts)....you would call him a Nazi."
Really?
Nazi?
When did this happen?
Also, do you see this settler's position on 1-state as better, worse, or the same as Hamas' vision of 1-state? Is Hamas' version of 1-state also well-intended and sincere in your view?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but Nazi's never I'll post examples if you wish