PLO Executive Committee Member Expects Hamas, Islamic Jihad to Join With PLO

[shira]

A member of the Executive Committee of the PLO, Dr. Ahmed Majdalani, told Al-Quds newspaper that he expects Hamas and Islamic Jihad to join with the PLO after National Council elections later this month, though the government will still headed by President Mahmoud Abbas.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/01/20/plo-executive-committee-member-expects-hamas-islamic-jihad-to-join-with-plo/

Same story:

Reorganization of PLO key to Palestinian unity
http://www.arabnews.com/columns/reorganization-plo-key-palestinian-unity

Palestinians slouching rightward towards theocratic fascism?

How is Israel expected to make peace with Hamas and Islamic Jihad when America can't possibly do so with Al-Qaeda, and while the EU won't even allow Turkey in as a member for the past 50 years?

And yet, it's Israel's fault there's no peace.

[Scootaloo]

1. Those really aren't the same article...

The Arab News article is from December and cites Mohammad Shtayyeh. It also, y'know, offer an actual quote from him:

“The PLO is always open for membership of Hamas or whoever, but the PLO has a political platform. And if that political platform is acceptable by Hamas and Jihad, they’re both welcome to be members,” he added.
The PLO’s platform includes recognition of Israel and signing of peace agreements, stances which have been rejected by Hamas and Islamic Jihad and could prove stumbling blocks to their membership.

(But hey, your boy hero Olmert was willing to scuttle his own "unshakeable non-negotiable" peace plan in order to get bedroom eyes from Avigdor Lieberman, so who can trust politicians, yeah?)

The algemeiner article is from this month and cites Ahmed Majdalani, without a quote. Instead it quotes from an anonymous propagandist blog. Which is unsurprising from a horse piss outlet that gives a platform for John Bolton, Ed Koch, and Daniel Pipes, I suppose.

[shira]

2. The bottom line is that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are in the PA....

...so long as they lie about recognizing the Zionist entity and renouncing terror. IOW, the PA will be even more a farce once that occurs and no reasonable agreement can be expected, ever.

I have no clue what you're going on about WRT Olmert and Lieberman. I'm not sure you even know...

[Scootaloo]

4. No, a PLO politician thinks they might.

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Shira, I do hate to repeat myself, but keep the fuck up.

I like the logic you have though. You're screaming your head off demanding that these organizations recognize Israel and renounce terror one minute... and yet if, by some weird (and in my estimation unlikely) stroke of fate they should ever actually do that, you just call 'em liars.

As for Olmert and Lieberman, I was just referring to how he proclaimed that nobody would ever join his coalition unless they accepted his convergence plan... and then completely threw away his convergence plan less than seven months later in order to bring Avi Lieberman into the coalition. Remember? I explained it to you. Even used sources you would find acceptable (well, back before you developed this troubling Koch-snorting habit you have)

Point being, I actually figure the PLO will sell out its principles before either Hamas or IJ will.

[shira]

5. You believe Hamas and Islamic Jihad can ever moderate themselves....

....and work towards peace with Israel?

Olmert threw out the convergence plan because everyone was against it. From the US and UK to the Palestinians, and a lot of the Israeli populace. The most interesting thing about it is that Israel's harshest critics who say they're for an end to occupation never seem to act as if they are, as they've been against every plan for Israel to extricate itself from the W.Bank (whether partially or in total with land swaps).

[Scootaloo]

8. I just told you what I think

Though being a science-minded person, I'll admit that I find very few things impossible - only very improbable

And sure. Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. He ditched it because it was the only way to get Likud Beitinu into his coalition. Shit Shira, if Israeli politicians stopped doing dumb shit because of international disapproval, this group wouldn't exist on DU.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

3. "And yet, it's Israel's fault there's no peace."

Are you really going to go there, my friend?

Israel has just as many reasons to not want peace: 350-500k of them. They're not just numbers. They're illegal's in a land not their own.

And when I have to remind that to some here, the stock answer is that Palestine is not really a country so all that stuff we have taken belongs to us.

And you have the audacity to rue that Israel is not also standing in the way of peace?


Yes, yes, please bring out the fabrications that the Palestinians don't want peace and that Israel has offered them so much back of what they have taken.

[shira]

6. How can Israel be expected to make peace with Hamas and Islamic Jihad....

...when that cannot be expected from the West WRT Al-Qaeda? The EU still refuses to allow Turkey into the fold, but Israel is at fault for not making peace with entities like Islamic Jihad and Hamas?

Israel offered an end to settlements - twice since 2000. The Palestinians rejected the offers. If it were only about land WRT settlements, the PA would have said something about that, wouldn't they?

[zellie]

7. They can't , they shouldn't and they won't .

Certainly not the way Hamas and IJ are now and have been forever.

Of course the PA has recognized Israel ... 20 years ago with one sentence in a letter. BFD. And none since.

Now you can believe the Palestinians want peace.( although you would hard pressed to find anything to support that) . Or it's possible they simply don't want peace and would rather continue to hope to exterminate the Jews ( you won't be hard pressed to support that.)