Lapid, prevent civil war

[Jefferson23]

** Interesting concerns regarding draft dodgers of all persuasions.


Hello Yair,


I am allowing myself to turn to you in this manner because throughout the election campaign you gave the impression that you are "one of us," a man of the people. Despite the fact that I consider myself a haredi, I respect the integrity you displayed throughout the campaign very much. Unlike other candidates, you focused on presenting your political platform rather than attacking other candidates. This was the right thing to do.


I am writing this letter to you because I believe you are holding the key to running this country. To be more specific, these elections placed a great responsibility on your shoulders: It is up to you to prevent civil war in Israel. It's as simple as that.

I am sure you are a very intelligent man who understands the equal share of the burden (also called "drafting yeshiva boys&quot issue very well. This is a very serious issue, and the next government will have to address it. This issue may exacerbate the religious-secular divide in Israel and lead to civil war.


It is very easy to decide on a universal draft and, seemingly, to be done with it. The question is what will Yesh Atid do with regards to the tens of thousands of seculars who dodge the IDF draft each year? I have yet to get an answer on this from any politician. Deciding on a universal draft would result in the outbreak of a civil war within a few months. The ultra-Orthodox will not relent. Moreover, as the draft becomes more coercive, the resistance to it will intensify.

in full: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4336961,00.html

[oberliner]

1. What's your position?

Do you think there should be a draft and that everyone should have to serve or what?

[Jefferson23]

2. I'm not interested in what they decide..just interested in how their infighting will

impact their governing.

[oberliner]

3. Understood

But do you have a position on the draft in general? Do you think compulsory military service (or national service of some kind) is a good idea?

[Jefferson23]

4. I do have an opinion on the subject as it relates to the U.S., but this

is not the place for that discussion.

[oberliner]

11. No need for a discussion

Just one sentence would be appreciated.

[Jefferson23]

13. No oberliner, a one sentence summation would not be sufficient.

You''re certainly free to express your own sentiments on the subject..go for it,
if you like.

[Scootaloo]

8. I'll bite

1) I regard compulsive military conscription to be counter to the principles of a free and democratic nation, and regard it as a method to give a military undue influence over the society and its political structure.

2) If is there is going to be compulsive conscription, then it needs to be applied equally to all citizens of the nation.

3) Compulsive civil service, with military service as one of multiple options for the person so called on, is a grey area for me. If used #2 still should apply

[shira]

9. Israelis already get to choose b/w military and civil service....

Not all of them (who are exempt) but it should apply to ALL Israelis IMO.

[shaayecanaan]

10. I would support it...

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. "and lead to civil war."

Doubtful.

[Jefferson23]

6. I agree, but the arguments and tactics to come will be interesting as Lapid

attempts to deliver.

[Jefferson23]

7. Shas spiritual leader threatens mass exodus if IDF drafts ultra-Orthodox

Ovadia Yosef says that ultra-Orthodox Jews will respond to yeshiva students being drafted into the IDF by leaving the country.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/shas-spiritual-leader-threatens-mass-exodus-if-idf-drafts-ultra-orthodox.premium-1.492554

[sabbat hunter]

12. let them leave

where will they go where the government gives them as much aid as they get now, basically study the torah and get paid to do it.

It is a big bluff.

[Jefferson23]

14. I suspect you're quite right. Yet it is the balance of power that interests me..how

this plays out in a newly formed government.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

15. Perhaps they could settle in or around Lancaster county PA. with the Amish.

Perhaps they will get along.