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Related: About this forumParis Anti-Hollande March Turns Hateful Against Jews
(JTA) A march through Paris against French President Francois Hollande ended with anti-Semitic chants and cries of support for an anti-Semitic comedian.
At least 150 protesters were arrested in the Day of Anger demonstrations on Sunday, according to reports. Nineteen police officers were injured in clashes with protesters, one seriously, the French news agency AFP reported. Police estimated that 17,000 participated in the march.
Protesters performed the quenelle, a gesture reminiscent of the Hitler salute that was invented by the anti-Semitic French comedian Dieudonne Mbala Mbala. They also called for freedom of speech on Dieudonnes behalf.
Anti-Semitic chants included Jews go home and Jews, France is not your country, according to Israel Radio.
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LeftishBrit
(41,192 posts)From the Jewish Chronicle:
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/114402/dieudonn%C3%A9-a-cool-antisemite
Lehrer suggests that banning him might just be playing into his hands. I see the point, but given certain aspects of French history, I can see why the government is taking it very seriously.
Here is further discussion of the man, by two people who agree that he's vile, but disagree with each other about whether a ban is the solution:
http://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2014/jan/11/dieudonne-quenelle-francois-hollande-support-ban-comedian-france-debate
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)aren't much better than he is:-
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/18/french-journalist-racism-drug-dealer
"The biggest crooks on the planet are all Jews (...) You ought to be a Jew to have (right to) freedom of speech in France. It's the reality; to say the opposite is to be afraid."
This comment was made in reply to a remark by French Jewish journalist Eric Zemmour, who said that the most part of traffickers were Arabs and Blacks.
I am not sure that I would be comfortable banning either of them. Besides, I would think that the police have better things to do.
LeftishBrit
(41,192 posts)LePen supporters tend not to like Jews or Arabs very much.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)is wellknown for having called Holocaust " a small detail in WW2"history"
King_David
(14,851 posts)Nothing new here.
The reason the Jewish State was created.
WatermelonRat
(340 posts)that kickstarted zionism to begin with.
King_David
(14,851 posts)GeoWilliam750
(2,519 posts)And it shortly preceded the World Zionist Congress of 1897 in Basel,
These are possibly more to the point as reasons to accelerate the Zionist movement:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_pogroms_in_the_Russian_Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa_pogroms
It also resulted in the emigration of a reported two million Jews, mostly to the United Sates and the United Kingdom between 1880 and 1914. This would be approximately 2% of the average Russian population across this period. This would be similar in scale to the population of the entire state of Arizona thinking it best to leave.
King_David
(14,851 posts)As any Jewish school kid knows the Dreyfus affair was a turning point in the Jewish National project.
GeoWilliam750
(2,519 posts)Why have you not made aliyah?
King_David
(14,851 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)My personal life has nothing to do with anyone on a public internet forum.
How is that for an answer?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and generally refer to Israel as the Jewish state, so it follows to ask if you live there-sorry if you take offense to that none was meant
Mosby
(16,168 posts)As are most of the pro Israel regulars.
What's behind your obsession with IP?
King_David
(14,851 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)care to share? and if not why?
Mosby
(16,168 posts)According to your profile you have made 550 posts in the ip group in the past 90 days.
I have noted your interest in the ip conflict since you joined du in 2006.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)about what you call mine (albeit I'm not the one running around checking posting history of another DUer), makes me feel you have some thought of your own care to share that with us? You seem hesitant for some unknown reason
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Didn't you know, azurnoir, that you can only comment on some things if it only pertains to you in a most righteous way?
You can't comment on Democrats unless you are a Democrat.
You can't comment on Persians unless you are a Persian.
You can't talk about Israel unless you are an Israeli...
Ans so it goes. we're dealing with entities whose intellect is significantly higher than our own.