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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 05:40 PM Jan 2014

Paris Anti-Hollande March Turns Hateful Against Jews

(JTA) — A march through Paris against French President Francois Hollande ended with anti-Semitic chants and cries of support for an anti-Semitic comedian.

At least 150 protesters were arrested in the “Day of Anger” demonstrations on Sunday, according to reports. Nineteen police officers were injured in clashes with protesters, one seriously, the French news agency AFP reported. Police estimated that 17,000 participated in the march.

Protesters performed the quenelle, a gesture reminiscent of the Hitler salute that was invented by the anti-Semitic French comedian Dieudonne M’bala M’bala. They also called for freedom of speech on Dieudonne’s behalf.

Anti-Semitic chants included “Jews go home” and “Jews, France is not your country,” according to Israel Radio.

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Paris Anti-Hollande March Turns Hateful Against Jews (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2014 OP
Ugh. Some things don't change. LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #1
Some of the people he trades barbs with... shaayecanaan Jan 2014 #3
Well, they have a lot in common; indeed Dieudonne is a good friend of the LePens and their party LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #4
Jean Marie le Pen mylye2222 Feb 2014 #14
AntiZionism.. King_David Jan 2014 #2
If I recall correctly it was an instance of antisemitism in France, a supposedly enlightened country WatermelonRat Jan 2014 #5
Dreyfus affair King_David Jan 2014 #6
Although the Dreyfus affair was abundantly sick and shameful GeoWilliam750 Jan 2014 #7
Multifaceted and Multifactorial King_David Jan 2014 #8
You are clearly an ardent and tireless supporter of Israel GeoWilliam750 Jan 2014 #9
Do you know me? King_David Jan 2014 #10
well that was hardly an answer? azurnoir Feb 2014 #11
And I do not think you know me either, King_David Feb 2014 #12
well I was curious you've claimed to a "spokesman" for Jews azurnoir Feb 2014 #13
me and king david are jews Mosby Feb 2014 #15
Good question nt King_David Feb 2014 #16
my obsession? your very wording makes me think you have some thought of your own azurnoir Feb 2014 #17
I have no idea why you're so interested in the I/P conflict Mosby Feb 2014 #18
well your observant but your wording denotes hostility and your own obsession azurnoir Feb 2014 #19
:sigh: R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #20

LeftishBrit

(41,192 posts)
1. Ugh. Some things don't change.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jan 2014

From the Jewish Chronicle:

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/114402/dieudonn%C3%A9-a-cool-antisemite

Lehrer suggests that banning him might just be playing into his hands. I see the point, but given certain aspects of French history, I can see why the government is taking it very seriously.

Here is further discussion of the man, by two people who agree that he's vile, but disagree with each other about whether a ban is the solution:

http://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2014/jan/11/dieudonne-quenelle-francois-hollande-support-ban-comedian-france-debate

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
3. Some of the people he trades barbs with...
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jan 2014

aren't much better than he is:-

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/18/french-journalist-racism-drug-dealer

April 2010:

"The biggest crooks on the planet are all Jews (...) You ought to be a Jew to have (right to) freedom of speech in France. It's the reality; to say the opposite is to be afraid."

This comment was made in reply to a remark by French Jewish journalist Eric Zemmour, who said that the most part of traffickers were Arabs and Blacks.


I am not sure that I would be comfortable banning either of them. Besides, I would think that the police have better things to do.





LeftishBrit

(41,192 posts)
4. Well, they have a lot in common; indeed Dieudonne is a good friend of the LePens and their party
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jan 2014

LePen supporters tend not to like Jews or Arabs very much.

WatermelonRat

(340 posts)
5. If I recall correctly it was an instance of antisemitism in France, a supposedly enlightened country
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jan 2014

that kickstarted zionism to begin with.

GeoWilliam750

(2,519 posts)
7. Although the Dreyfus affair was abundantly sick and shameful
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:36 AM
Jan 2014

And it shortly preceded the World Zionist Congress of 1897 in Basel,

These are possibly more to the point as reasons to accelerate the Zionist movement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_pogroms_in_the_Russian_Empire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa_pogroms

It also resulted in the emigration of a reported two million Jews, mostly to the United Sates and the United Kingdom between 1880 and 1914. This would be approximately 2% of the average Russian population across this period. This would be similar in scale to the population of the entire state of Arizona thinking it best to leave.





King_David

(14,851 posts)
8. Multifaceted and Multifactorial
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 08:59 AM
Jan 2014

As any Jewish school kid knows the Dreyfus affair was a turning point in the Jewish National project.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
12. And I do not think you know me either,
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 06:54 PM
Feb 2014

My personal life has nothing to do with anyone on a public internet forum.

How is that for an answer?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. well I was curious you've claimed to a "spokesman" for Jews
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 06:57 PM
Feb 2014

and generally refer to Israel as the Jewish state, so it follows to ask if you live there-sorry if you take offense to that none was meant

Mosby

(16,168 posts)
15. me and king david are jews
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 02:33 PM
Feb 2014

As are most of the pro Israel regulars.

What's behind your obsession with IP?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. my obsession? your very wording makes me think you have some thought of your own
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 04:45 PM
Feb 2014

care to share? and if not why?

Mosby

(16,168 posts)
18. I have no idea why you're so interested in the I/P conflict
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 05:09 PM
Feb 2014

According to your profile you have made 550 posts in the ip group in the past 90 days.

I have noted your interest in the ip conflict since you joined du in 2006.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
19. well your observant but your wording denotes hostility and your own obsession
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

about what you call mine (albeit I'm not the one running around checking posting history of another DUer), makes me feel you have some thought of your own care to share that with us? You seem hesitant for some unknown reason

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
20. :sigh:
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:58 PM
Feb 2014

Didn't you know, azurnoir, that you can only comment on some things if it only pertains to you in a most righteous way?

You can't comment on Democrats unless you are a Democrat.

You can't comment on Persians unless you are a Persian.

You can't talk about Israel unless you are an Israeli...


Ans so it goes. we're dealing with entities whose intellect is significantly higher than our own.

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