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Related: About this forumAs Abbas returns from US, critics say talks doomed to fail
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=683250"President Obama's meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the White House, which comes on the heels of a visit by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, may give the impression that the US is an even-handed mediator in this never-ending Middle East peace process," Bahour said.
"Such a reading would be a strategic misunderstanding. There is not an iota of symmetry between a military occupying power and a supposedly protected occupied people. When the US stops putting Israel's interests before its own and starts holding it accountable in proportion to the severity of its violations of international law, then maybe peace will have a chance."
Peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians were relaunched in July under the auspices of the US after nearly three years of impasse.
Israel's government has announced the construction of thousands of settler housing units since the talks began, and its army has killed 60 Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza since talks began.
"Such a reading would be a strategic misunderstanding. There is not an iota of symmetry between a military occupying power and a supposedly protected occupied people. When the US stops putting Israel's interests before its own and starts holding it accountable in proportion to the severity of its violations of international law, then maybe peace will have a chance."
Peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians were relaunched in July under the auspices of the US after nearly three years of impasse.
Israel's government has announced the construction of thousands of settler housing units since the talks began, and its army has killed 60 Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza since talks began.
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As Abbas returns from US, critics say talks doomed to fail (Original Post)
R. Daneel Olivaw
Mar 2014
OP
Yes, Shira. Please respond to the OP, and try not to attempt to hijack the thread.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Mar 2014
#2
How many were civilians, or do you consider all Palestinians to be terrorists?
R. Daneel Olivaw
Mar 2014
#4
It's a lie by omission from a very racist news source. So yeah, it's incitement. n/t
shira
Mar 2014
#7
shira we've been over this ad nauseum an Israeli court threw out your incitement claims
azurnoir
Mar 2014
#14
shira
(30,109 posts)1. Another Maan article. Here's what currently exists on their website:
http://www.maannews.net/arb/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=672533
Author: Abdul-Halim Abuhaggag
Revealed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - wicked sons of Zion - about their plans to subjugate the people and control the world; That masterminding the means to capture the reins of world politics, and the disclosure of systematic sabotage of the country and the corruption of the subjects captured through banking and jewelers, and control of the wealth of financial and natural resources and labor, and through Control of the media and the arts and directed destination that serve their purposes and achieve their goals. has been these protocols very secret, they are mostly the minutes of meetings and instructions issued by the organizations of Light Jewish (members of Masonic lodges), which met with members twelve - the wealthy the powerful - at the invitation of Mayer Bauer ( Rothschild's grandfather), and under his leadership the year 1773 in Frankfurt, Germany, and addressed to the Masonaa Grand Orient in France, but equally willing to unfold these protocols the year 1785, when what has been tuned, accompanied by a cavalry that - is said to be - injured by lightning sentenced him, on his way from Frankfurt and Paris. Vankhevc her intentions, plans and methods of invisible hands of the Illuminati group moneylenders Jews (members of the Jewish Masonic associations). The leaders of the associations of the Jewish Masonic conspiracies planning, and design of structures, coups and revolutions, so deceiving the people and control the money in their hands to mark the Ihtkronh heart regimes.
Author: Abdul-Halim Abuhaggag
Revealed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - wicked sons of Zion - about their plans to subjugate the people and control the world; That masterminding the means to capture the reins of world politics, and the disclosure of systematic sabotage of the country and the corruption of the subjects captured through banking and jewelers, and control of the wealth of financial and natural resources and labor, and through Control of the media and the arts and directed destination that serve their purposes and achieve their goals. has been these protocols very secret, they are mostly the minutes of meetings and instructions issued by the organizations of Light Jewish (members of Masonic lodges), which met with members twelve - the wealthy the powerful - at the invitation of Mayer Bauer ( Rothschild's grandfather), and under his leadership the year 1773 in Frankfurt, Germany, and addressed to the Masonaa Grand Orient in France, but equally willing to unfold these protocols the year 1785, when what has been tuned, accompanied by a cavalry that - is said to be - injured by lightning sentenced him, on his way from Frankfurt and Paris. Vankhevc her intentions, plans and methods of invisible hands of the Illuminati group moneylenders Jews (members of the Jewish Masonic associations). The leaders of the associations of the Jewish Masonic conspiracies planning, and design of structures, coups and revolutions, so deceiving the people and control the money in their hands to mark the Ihtkronh heart regimes.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)2. Yes, Shira. Please respond to the OP, and try not to attempt to hijack the thread.
shira
(30,109 posts)3. An example from the article of Maan incitement:
its army has killed 60 Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza since talks began.
How many were militants as opposed to civilians?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)4. How many were civilians, or do you consider all Palestinians to be terrorists?
You seem to be hung up on a statement of fact.
If the number turns out to be 50 Palestinians killed I'm sure you will feel vindicated.
shira
(30,109 posts)5. I pointed to ridiculous bias & incitement from a nasty, racist news source...
I also asked a question and, as predicted, you deflected.
It's quite obvious you like Maan b/c you love how they incite animosity towards Israel.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)6. An article stating a fact is not deflecting or inciting.
Poor you.
shira
(30,109 posts)7. It's a lie by omission from a very racist news source. So yeah, it's incitement. n/t
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)9. That's conjecture; seeing how neither you nor I have the figures
on who the 60 dead Palestinians are. But conjecture away.
shira
(30,109 posts)11. Yes, no one knows how many out of those 60 were terrorists.
Any news (especially from a despicable racist source like Maan) that bashes the dreaded Zionists is legit, right?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)12. I would suggest that you refrain from
hyperventilating over your latest attempt at victimization.
You're not going to hijack my thread, dear.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)14. shira we've been over this ad nauseum an Israeli court threw out your incitement claims
but yet here you a couple of days later with the very same woolen eye covering
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)13. Why didn't you include Maans disclaimer? Which states plainly LttE's do not express Maans views?
it's in Arabic why the attempt to mislead here? Are you depending on people not clicking the link?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)8. Good question:
"Did he regret securing Palestine's upgraded status as a non-member observer state of the United Nations but then freezing its moves to join other UN organizations or the International Criminal Court in favor of yet more US-mediated negotiations that only result in increased pressure for Palestinian concessions?"
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)10. He's a horrible leader. The Palestinians deserve better.