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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:43 PM Jul 2014

In photos: Israeli soldiers destroy kidnapping suspects’ family homes in retribution attack

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/soliders-kidnapping-retribution.html

Israeli Defense Forces raided the homes of Amar Abu Aisha and Marwan Qawasmeh in the city of Hebron on Monday evening, June 30th into the morning of July 1st. At approximately 12:00 am, soldiers set up explosives in both homes, detonating them after the families were evacuated. Israeli intelligence has accused both men of allegedly kidnapping the settler teens. The whereabouts of both men are unknown.

Amar Abu Aisha’s father was arrested four days ago and two of his sons were arrested fourteen days ago.

Umm Sharif, Marwan Qawasmeh’s mother, recounted how the IDF had delayed the transport of her husband to the hospital, who has cancer and suffers from asthma. Marwan’s wife and 2-month-old nephew were taken to the hospital after sustaining moderate injuries from the blast but have since recovered. His wife was summoned for questioning this morning at Atzion Prison along with Marwan’s sister and brother.


I guess that justice was served somehow, even though there have been, no arrests, no trials, no convictions.
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In photos: Israeli soldiers destroy kidnapping suspects’ family homes in retribution attack (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 OP
Nothing like a little collective punishment to bring back some dark History PeoViejo Jul 2014 #1
They don't need no stinkin' trials! Jake Stern Jul 2014 #2
Terrorists states gonna terrorize mwrguy Jul 2014 #3
Israel feels this is restrained response azurnoir Jul 2014 #4
Lovely comments over there. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #5
Vile- and why I wouldn't use Meadowiss as a source cali Jul 2014 #6
Thanks for the hattip Shakti azurnoir Jul 2014 #18
It's informative. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #19
I think the same could be said about the 'readership' of a number of places we see used here azurnoir Jul 2014 #20
well I guess cherry picking 4 comments out over 200 is informative alright azurnoir Jul 2014 #22
Mondoweiss is a sewer for the worst antisemites... shira Jul 2014 #7
Who owns and runs that website? I could not find any names. You wish to go down Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #8
This isn't about comments below each article. Mondoweiss' articles R hateful.... shira Jul 2014 #9
You have no answer as to who owns and runs that website, ok. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #10
Don't let the facts confuse you. Just ignore the links to Mondoweiss hatred. shira Jul 2014 #11
Again, No answer. You want to be a critic of Mondoweiss by posting from an anonymous source Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #12
Click the links to Mondoweiss showing the hatred.... shira Jul 2014 #13
I can only surmise the website you're selling does not want to be identified. You're engaging Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #14
Seriously? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #16
I was getting worried about you, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #15
Problem being.., Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #17
so is this article truthful or not? are you saying that no ransacking and destruction of Palestinian azurnoir Jul 2014 #21
Are you typing this from a prepared script, shak? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #23

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
2. They don't need no stinkin' trials!
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jul 2014

Apparently, to Israel, the legal process is for wimps, bleeding heart liberals and anti-semites.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
4. Israel feels this is restrained response
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 12:48 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Wed Jul 2, 2014, 02:18 AM - Edit history (1)

The Fourth Geneva Convention, article 53, prohibits “any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons.”

Critics of home demolitions argue that it constitutes a punishment delivered without a trial, that it amounts to collective punishment — which in itself is illegal under international law — and that research has shown that anyway it is not effective in deterring terrorists from carrying our their plans.

“Many years ago, Israel used home demolitions extensively, but over time we went over to filling the houses with brick and mortar instead of demolishing them,” said Joel Singer, who served as the head of the international law department in the IDF Judge General Advocate’s Court, and later as legal adviser to the Foreign Ministry.

Filling the home of the terrorist and thus rendering it useless was chosen as a punishment for two reasons, Singer explained: it is reversible and, since it is not a complete destruction, it doesn’t really violate the prohibition against home demolitions.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-invasion-or-house-demolitions-israel-still-likely-to-come-under-fire/

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
5. Lovely comments over there.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 04:36 AM
Jul 2014
Mooser on July 1, 2014 at 8:40 pm
“What the h-ck is wrong with you boy?!”

It’s simple. It is not in the interest of Zionists to portray themselves, or Jews ghenerally, as people who are fit to live in equality with other people. They seek to portray Jews as people who must rule over the people around them.
Anything they can do convey the message that Jews can’t live with others is, to them, good for Zionism.
And Jews, affluent Western Jews, if possible, who are compelled to go to Israel because of persecution in their native lands? That’s their wet dream. They look forward to owning the rest of us, if they can just turn the world against us.
But when the time comes, we’ll have to pull their Zionist asses out of the fire they made for themselves, and probably pay to clean up the mess they made. And then try to forget we ever did anything so stupid as steal a country.


It’s a pogrom. And the Palestinians would be well within their rights to respond in kind, with force. And since the Israelis, by this attack, have shown that they don’t give a damn if someone is innocent or not, they’ve just made every Israeli, anywhere in the world a possible target. May they reap what they sow and this devilish act be cast back on the Israelis a hundred fold.


You are a despicable monster from a nation of monsters.

I hope you and your cult go the way of Nazi Germany and other fascist societies.

Only in Israel, can you pick on people weaker than you.

You and your fellow Zionist Jews are cowards and criminals.


Woody Tanaka on July 1, 2014 at 12:55 pm
“Of course Israelis are proud of their sons and daughters.”

Yeah, nothing says “pride” like watching your young terrorists in unform torture innocent Palestinians… What a diseased society you Zionists have for yourselves there.


Their readership is nothing if not passionate. They seem like objective folks to me... How about you? Reasonable people over there at mondoweiss?

The weird part is that this isn't even really the offensive shit.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. Thanks for the hattip Shakti
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:01 AM
Jul 2014

in the future we'll make it a point to post the talkbacks from what is posted here capital idea yessiree it is

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
20. I think the same could be said about the 'readership' of a number of places we see used here
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:20 AM
Jul 2014

sure you wish to go that route?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
22. well I guess cherry picking 4 comments out over 200 is informative alright
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:40 AM
Jul 2014

especially when a distraction is needed

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. Who owns and runs that website? I could not find any names. You wish to go down
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:16 AM
Jul 2014

the road to begin a contest of which publications have more offensive comments than others?
From Harretz to Arutz Sheva you will find a full spectrum of negative.

Good luck with your contest, as you'll likely break even at best or lose altogether.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
9. This isn't about comments below each article. Mondoweiss' articles R hateful....
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:35 AM
Jul 2014

You'd realize that if you read what's on that link and clicked onto each article at the Mondoweiss site.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. You have no answer as to who owns and runs that website, ok.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:39 AM
Jul 2014

Seems they don't want to identify themselves...I can understand why.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
11. Don't let the facts confuse you. Just ignore the links to Mondoweiss hatred.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:41 AM
Jul 2014

Focus instead on attacking the messenger.

Okay, I get it.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
12. Again, No answer. You want to be a critic of Mondoweiss by posting from an anonymous source
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:45 AM
Jul 2014

and you expect people to accept it.

Good luck.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
13. Click the links to Mondoweiss showing the hatred....
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:52 AM
Jul 2014

Or keep ignoring and defending that hatred.

It's that simple.

Either it's hatred or it's not.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. I can only surmise the website you're selling does not want to be identified. You're engaging
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jul 2014

in a futile contest and your source btw, does in fact link back to what other websites claim
someone at Modoweiss said..not the original documents.

You charge so many publications with a broad brush, it's
ridiculous. Do they have offensive clueless OP's on occasion..I would
say,yea. I find OP's on many American publications pushing propaganda
reflecting anti Arab/Muslim sentiments frequently. NYT, WSJ, are just two.

If I refuse to read any of these publications due to that problem, I will
have very little to pick from.

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
16. Seriously?
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jul 2014

You're being sarcastic right? Everyone knows Phillip Weiss runs MW

Edit. Never mind. I misunderstood.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
15. I was getting worried about you, shira.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jul 2014

You didn't show up right away to try and divert attention from Israeli atrocities.

But I'm glad you are back to your old song and dance of adding nothing except poorly thought out diverions.

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
17. Problem being..,
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jul 2014

Mondoweiss exists solely to promote anti-Zionist news/ideology/propaganda. It's not a site with enough credibility to take at face value. There's no way of knowing how much of any of their posts are true; almost all of them are misleading via omitting key facts; some end up being total fabrications.

Nothing written there is worth discussing without verification first. They don't just omit the other side of the story. They actively suppress it. Any commenter there who is too Zionist friendly gets banned in short order.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. so is this article truthful or not? are you saying that no ransacking and destruction of Palestinian
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:38 AM
Jul 2014

homes has taken place?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
23. Are you typing this from a prepared script, shak?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:21 PM
Jul 2014

Seriouly, every time a news source is critical of Israel there us always the same pablum dredged up to discredit the source.

But are you saying that the photos are lying?

Try not to strain yourself carrying all those excuses for the IDF.

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