UNRWA Transferred Rockets to Hamas

[shira]

Last week JewishPress.com reported that UNRWA officials were chagrined to discover, during a routine inspection, that 20 rockets being stored in one of their schools.

We reported at the time that:

Immediately following the discovery, the agency said it “informed the relevant parties” – without indicating who those might be – and “successfully took all necessary measures for the removal of the objects” – without saying how they were removed, where they were taken, or by whom.

This morning, Israel’s Channel 2 reported that the relevant parties that UNWRA officials informed and handed the rockets over to, was none other than Hamas.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/unrwa-transferred-rockets-to-hamas/2014/07/20/

[shaayecanaan]

1. damned if they do, damned if they don't

No doubt if the school had not told Hamas to collect their rockets Israel would have felt entitled to bomb them. There's certainly plenty of precedent for Israel bombing UN schools and safe areas.

[shira]

2. They should've made it clear from the start...

....that they either had no choice but to hand the missiles over to Hamas, or request that some 3rd party dispose of them.

[shaayecanaan]

3. who did you have in mind?

The typesetters union of upper milwaukee, perhaps?

[shira]

4. Obviously, the UN had something to hide & you're defending them

There was a reason they were less than forthcoming in their original statements. They knew handing the weapons over to Hamas was wrong.

If they had no choice but to surrender the weapons to Hamas, they should've said so or challenged the IDF to come up with an alternative.

[azurnoir]

5. same author promoted Mohammed Abu Khdeir was an honor killing and Arabs had already been arrested

with an hour or so of the announcement of his body being found

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/body-of-arab-boy-found-in-jerusalem-forest/2014/07/02/

[shaayecanaan]

31. ah, a perfect fit for our friend then (nt)

[shaayecanaan]

32. Dear IDF...

We, the undersigned UN school full of little kiddies, are currently in possession of a significant number of artillery rockets. Our address is XXXX. Would you like to send a courier to Gaza to come and get them?

PS: Please don't fire tank shells at us like last time. Pretty Please.

Yours sincerely,
UNRWA

Yeah, I can't imagine anything going wrong with an idea like that.

[azurnoir]

7. cozy? nothing cozy about it , UNRWA was in an untenable situation

exactly what was UNRWA supposed to do under the circumstances, wait and see how IDF felt about it? perhaps store them elsewhere and tell IDF where? 'scuse but as we learned in both Lebanon 2006 and OCL IDF seems to have little compunction about bombing UN facilities and killing UN personnel

also under the circumstances UNRWA simply could have kept silent it did not

[Shaktimaan]

22. Really?

'scuse but as we learned in both Lebanon 2006 and OCL IDF seems to have little compunction about bombing UN facilities and killing UN personnel

So you believe that those incidents were deliberate?

[azurnoir]

23. the deaths of the UNFIL soldiers in Lebanon possibly

the school in Gaza during OCL no I believe "Hamas in area®" was the given reason

[Shaktimaan]

25. What motive...

Do you think might be behind a deliberate attack?

[azurnoir]

26. whatever the motive was for attacking an UNFIL observation post

and yes I am aware Israel said essentially-oops sorry or something along that line only wordier

[Shaktimaan]

27. So then

Why exactly do you think it was intentional?

[azurnoir]

28. I just answered that n/t

[Shaktimaan]

29. I must have missed it.

Care to clarify?

[azurnoir]

30. clarify how? what are you digging for? I answered you

so once again-what ever motivation there was for attacking an UNFIL observation post even though if memory serves oops sorry was the reason given well a more florid version of that anyway

[Shaktimaan]

33. I'm asking...

Why you think it was intentional.

[azurnoir]

34. except I never said that I said possibly and every reply I've made stemmed from that

Star Member azurnoir (34,460 posts)
23. the deaths of the UNFIL soldiers in Lebanon possibly

the school in Gaza during OCL no I believe "Hamas in area®" was the given reason

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113470771#post23

[Shaktimaan]

35. In that case never mind.

[shira]

8. The head of UNRWA (Gunness) recently promoted Mads Gilbert....

...to the press in a tweet.

“Great interviewee @ Shifa Hosp Gaza right now Prof Mads Gilbert [phone] call him 4 fatality & cas figs and atoms RT.”

Gilbert is a pro-Hamas doctor now in Gaza who justified and supported the 9/11 attacks. Hamas is certain to approve of Gilbert being interviewed by the press, as he follows all relevant HAMASBARA guidelines for cognitive warfare:

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8076.htm

Seems to be a pattern at the UN. Richard Falk is a 911 Troofer & professional Hamasbarist who justified the Boston Marathon bombings. You don't think the UN deliberately looks to employ these anti-western, anarchist cranks when it comes to I/P, do you?

[King_David]

9. I wonder if it's legal to supply or transfer arms to a terrorist organization ?

The blood will be on the UNRWA hands now

If any of those rockets do what they meant to do .



Who funds the UNRWA ?

[shira]

10. To Hamas and their Hamasbarist friends, yes it's legal. n/t

[King_David]

21. Makes a lot of sense

[cali]

11. Your sources are NOT reliable, shira. do provide us with corroboration.

and no, Arutz-Sheva doesn't count. It too is right wing partisan and hate filled.

[shira]

12. Times of Israel with same story

http://www.timesofisrael.com/un-agency-handed-rockets-back-to-hamas-israel-says/

[cali]

13. bwahahaha. RIGHT WING. duh. try again, shira.

[shira]

14. More denial. It's a centrist news source. n/t

[cali]

15. yeah, more denial. YOURS. Here, hon. Chomp on this.

from the right wing piece of shit The Forward:

When The Times of Israel, a new Web-only, English-language Israeli newspaper, hit the Internet in February, its glossy design and professional graphics moved many to wonder what well-heeled backer might be behind this latest entry into Israel’s crowded media market.
Seth Klarman
The Israel Project
Seth Klarman

As it turns out, Seth Klarman, another wealthy American Jewish investor, is following in the footsteps of Sheldon Adelson and Ron Lauder in acting on his belief that coverage of Israel within Israel itself is unbalanced and unjustifiably hostile — and that he can do something about it.

In a statement to readers of the new media outlet, Klarman, the paper’s financial backer, wrote that he would have no editorial control over the publication. But he also made his motives clear.

“My own interest in Israel has become even stronger post-9/11, when the threat of terrorism and the danger of radical Islam collided with a global campaign on many fronts to delegitimize the Jewish State,” Klarman wrote. “As a longtime student of the history of anti-Semitism, I know this blind hatred is never the fault of Jews…

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/152169/the-softspoken-man-behind-times-of-israel/?p=all#ixzz3815VYbyE

Much, much more just for you shira, dear:


David Horowitz is a bigot asswipe hater of the worst kind and YOU fucking have the unmitigated gall to claim this filthy rag is "centrist". holy dishonest shit, shira.

The Times of Israel was launched in February 2012. Its founder and editor is David Horovitz, formerly of The Jerusalem Post and The Jerusalem Report. It receives financial support from Boston, Massachusetts-based Seth Klarman, founder of Baupost Group and chairman of The David Project, who has said he is opposed to Israel's settlement movement.[3] Haaretz English Edition editor Joshua Davidovich joined The Times as news editor,[4] and Haaretz Arab affairs correspondent Avi Isaacharoff joined as Middle East analyst.[5]

[shira]

16. The Jewish Forward is a rightwing PoS? LOL!

You also have your David Horowitz's mixed up. The nutbag from FrontPageMagazine is not the same guy as Horowitz from the JPost.

Your last paragraph attests to the center-left views of the Times.

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You prefer the Guardian as a leftwing source? They have yet to report on Hamas war crimes against its own people.

[King_David]

17. The Foreward is a very progressive Jewish newspaper

First time I've heard it be described as right wing .

[azurnoir]

18. well fwiw there is something interesting in the ToI article down near the bottom

A Western diplomat familiar with the incident said there is “absolutely no evidence” that UNRWA handed the rockets to Hamas. Rather, the diplomat suggested, the authorities who collected the rockets are under the direct authority of the Palestinian unity government, “which Hamas has left and which many in Hamas are openly hostile to. The key point is that the weapons were handed over to people who are not answerable to Hamas,” the diplomat said, referring to the fact that the unity government, not Hamas, is officially the ruling power in Gaza.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/un-agency-handed-rockets-back-to-hamas-israel-says/#ixzz381Fb5LX1

[sabbat hunter]

20. Wrong david horowitz

This isn't the same david horowitz that is the right wing nut.

you are thinking of this guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz

but this david Horovitz is a completely different person

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horovitz

Very similarly spelled names, so that can be forgiven. but they are in fact two separate people with two COMPLETELY different politics.