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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:49 AM Jul 2014

Israeli professor's 'rape as terror deterrent' statement draws ire

“The only thing that can deter terrorists, like those who kidnapped the children and killed them, is the knowledge that their sister or their mother will be raped.” This assertion was made by Middle East scholar Dr. Mordechai Kedar of Bar-Ilan University about three weeks ago on an Israel Radio program. “It sounds very bad, but that’s the Middle East,” added Kedar, of Bar-Ilan’s Department of Arabic.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.606542


btw, Gideon Levy now has bodyguards due to the seriousness of the death threats against him.

....nice....

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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. I saw this earlier, do I have to even say the word..disturbing? Ugh. I was not aware Levy needed
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jul 2014

bodyguards..that is horrible for him, but good to know he has them...just in case.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. Like this man in the OP? No, not on any level.
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:29 PM
Jul 2014

Yes, the violence from many groups is surfacing all over, scary stuff.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. Gideon Levy is a Leftist said either with a smile or a sneer depending
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:56 PM
Jul 2014

who supports BDS and one state according to this

Levy defines himself as a "patriotic Israeli".[17] He criticizes what he sees as Israeli society's "moral blindness" to the effects of its acts of war and occupation. He has referred to the construction of settlements on private Palestinian land as "the most criminal enterprise in [Israel's] history".[18] He opposed the 2006 Lebanon War, and the view that civilian casualties were inevitable. In 2007, he said that the plight of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, then under Israeli blockade, made him ashamed to be an Israeli.[19] "My modest mission is to prevent a situation in which many Israelis will be able to say 'We didn't know'," said Levy in an interview.[10]

Levy supports unilateral withdrawal from occupied Palestinian territories without concessions. "Israel is not being asked 'to give' anything to the Palestinians; it is only being asked to return – to return their stolen land and restore their trampled self-respect, along with their fundamental human rights and humanity."[20]

Levy used to support the two-state solution, but he argues that it has become untenable, and he now supports one-state solution.[21][22]

Levy wrote that the Gaza War was a failed campaign and its objectives were not achieved. "The conclusion is that Israel is a violent and dangerous country, devoid of all restraints and blatantly ignoring the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council, while not giving a hoot about international law," he wrote in an editorial.[23]

In 2010, Levy described Hamas as a fundamentalist organization and holds it responsible for the Qassam rockets fired at Israeli cities: "Hamas is to be blamed for launching the Qassams. This is unbearable. No sovereign state would have tolerated it. Israel had the right to react."[17]

Levy supports boycotting Israel, saying it is "the Israeli patriot’s final refuge".[24][25] Levy has said that economic boycott is more important, but that he also supports academic and cultural boycott.[26]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_Levy

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
6. I know he has been receiving death threats for a long time, but
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jul 2014

I think the bodyguards are relatively recent. It seems like a good idea, given that (parts of) Israeli society have become fascist. And regard violence as apple pie.

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
2. What a dispicable creature. Violence is never deterred
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 01:46 PM
Jul 2014

by violence. Violence begets violence and this sort of language does no good to the Israeli cause...or any other for that matter.

Israeli

(4,146 posts)
4. first I have heard that ...
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 02:03 PM
Jul 2014

" Gideon Levy now has bodyguards due to the seriousness of the death threats against him. "

doesnt suprise me tho ....especially after he wrote this :

Our wretched Jewish state

Now we know: In the Jewish state, there is pity and humane feelings only for Jews, rights only for the Chosen People. The Jewish state is only for Jews.

By Gideon Levy

The youths of the Jewish state are attacking Palestinians in the streets of Jerusalem, just like gentile youths used to attack Jews in the streets of Europe. The Israelis of the Jewish state are rampaging on social networks, displaying hatred and a lust for revenge, unprecedented in its diabolic scope. Some unknown people from the Jewish state, purely based on his ethnicity. These are the children of the nationalistic and racist generation – Netanyahu’s offspring.

For five years now, they have been hearing nothing but incitement, scaremongering and supremacy over Arabs from this generation’s true instructor, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Not one humane word, no commiseration or equal treatment.

They grew up with the provocative demand for recognition of Israel as a “Jewish state,” and they drew the inevitable conclusions. Even before any delineation of what a “Jewish state” means – will it be a state that dons tefillin (phylacteries), kisses mezuzot (doorpost fixtures with prayer scrolls), sanctifies charms, closes down on the Sabbath and keeps strict kashrut laws? – the penny has dropped for the masses.

The mob was the first to internalize its true significance: a Jewish state is one in which there is room only for Jews. The fate of Africans is to be sent to the Holot detention center in the Negev, while that of Palestinians is to suffer from pogroms. That’s how it works in a Jewish state: only this way can it be Jewish.

In the Jewish state-in-the-making, there is no room even for an Arab who strives his utmost to be a good Arab, such as the writer Sayed Kashua. In a Jewish state, the chairman of the Knesset plenary session, MK Ruth Calderon (from Yesh Atid – the “center” of the political map, needless to say), cuts off Arab MK Ahmed Tibi (United Arab List-Ta’al), who has just returned all shaken up from a visit to the family of the murdered Arab boy from Shoafat, impudently preaching to him that he must also refer to the three murdered Jewish teens (even after he did just that).

In a Jewish state, the High Court of Justice approves the demolition of a murder suspect’s family home even before his conviction. A Jewish state legislates racist and nationalist laws.

The media in the Jewish state wallows in the murder of three yeshiva students, while almost entirely ignoring the fates of several Palestinian youths of the same age who have been killed by army fire over the last few months, usually for no reason.

No one was punished for these acts – in the Jewish state there is one law for Jews and another for Arabs, whose lives are cheap. There is no hint of abiding by international laws and conventions. In the Jewish state, there is pity and humane feelings only for Jews, rights only for the Chosen People. The Jewish state is only for Jews.

The new generation growing in its shadow is a dangerous one, both to itself and its surroundings. Netanyahu is its education minister; the militaristic and nationalist media serves as its pedagogic epic poem; the education system that takes it to Auschwitz and Hebron serves as its guide.

The new sabra (native-born Israeli) is a novel species, prickly both on the outside and the inside. He has never met his Palestinian counterpart, but knows everything about him – the sabra knows he is a wild animal, intent only on killing him; that he is a monster, a terrorist.

He knows that Israel has no partner for peace, since this is what he’s heard countless times from Netanyahu, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Economy Minister Naftali Bennett. From Yair Lapid he’s heard that they are “Zoabis” – referring dismissively to MK Haneen Zoabi (Balad).

Being left wing or a seeker of justice in the Jewish state is deemed a crime, civil society is considered treacherous, true democracy an evil. In a Jewish state – dreamed of not only by the right wing but also by the supposed center-left, including Tzipi Livni and Lapid – democracy is blurred.

It’s not the skinheads that are the Jewish state’s main problem, it’s the sanctimonious eye-rollers, the thugs, the extreme right wing and the settlers. It’s not the margins but the mainstream, which is partly very nationalistic and partly indifferent.

In the Jewish state, there is no remnant of the biblical injunction to treat the minority or the stranger with justice. There are no more Jews left who marched with Martin Luther King or who sat in jail with Nelson Mandela. The Jewish state, which Israel insists the Palestinians recognize, must first recognize itself. At the end of the day, at the end of a terrible week, it seems that a Jewish state means a racist, nationalistic state, meant for Jews only.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.603232

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
7. 'Exposing the traitors' page IDs Palestinian workers in Israel in hopes of getting them fired
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jul 2014

A Facebook page is sharing profile screenshots of Palestinians who live and/or work in Israel, calling for them to be fired. The page, translated from Hebrew, means "Exposing the Traitors". It has been posting sensitive information concerning Palestinians who have written on social networks about the current situation in Gaza. The public page received more than 1800 likes since its creation on July 5.

Remi Kanazi, a prominent Palestinian-American writer called on his supporters to report the page based on Facebook's community standards:

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201407222113-0023952

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
14. re
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 02:56 AM
Jul 2014

"If Netanyahu is so bothered by how dead Palestinians look on television, then he should stop killing so many of them."

Seems reasonable enough.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
15. Yeah, this really shows why a nation of Palestine is needed.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 08:26 AM
Jul 2014

Clearly Israel's government cannot be trusted to deal with them in an even-handed way.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. In West Bank, Israel revives home demolitions to stop Hamas
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:55 PM
Jul 2014

HEBRON, West Bank — Said Kawasmeh received the order from Israel’s military last week. His two-story house was to be demolished, and his large family had 48 hours to leave.

Their crime: Kawasmeh’s son is a key suspect in the brutal kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers whose fates helped reignite the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

The son, Marwan, has disappeared. So Israel has zeroed in on his family.

“I built this house, and I own it,” lamented Kawasmeh, seated on a chair inside his empty house. Outside, the family’s possessions lay in boxes and shopping bags, or scattered on the ground. “Why do they want to punish me?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/in-west-bank-israel-revives-home-demolitions-to-stop-hamas/2014/07/22/c8197236-1dd7-4874-a3eb-f9438065644f_story.html

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Netanyahu’s Wikipedia Page Replaced With Palestinian Flag
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jul 2014

It was changed back within an hour

In a sign of the information war taking place alongside the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, the biographical information on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Wikipedia page was briefly replaced with a large image of a Palestinian flag Tuesday afternoon.

http://time.com/3020285/netanyahus-wikipedia-palestinian-flag/

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