2014 a record breaking year for aliyah

[King_David]

Although Israel faced another war and tensions rose in Jerusalem, 2014 was a record-breaking year in terms of aliyah (immigration) statistics.

According to the end-of-year figures released on Wednesday by the Jewish Agency for Israel and the The Ministry of Immigrant Absorption, aliyah hit a 10-year high in 2014 – with the arrival of about 26,500 fresh immigrants.

The year 2014 saw a 32% increase in immigrants, compared to the approximately 20,000 immigrants that made aliyah to Israel in 2013. For the first time in Israel's history, France has topped the list of countries of origin for immigrants to Israel – 7,000 new immigrants from France arrived in Israel in 2014, more than twice as much as the 3,400 French immigrants who arrived last year.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4609941,00.html

[Israeli]

1. So when can we expect you KD ?...

...anytime soon ??

[King_David]

2. When I have enough to buy a condo on Dizzingoff

Property prices in Tel Aviv are sky high.

[Israeli]

3. you could get twice as much ...

...for half the price ....over the Green Line .

Which is where most of your " 26,500 fresh immigrants. " will have ended up .

Expect nothing but resentment from us when you move into your " condo on Dizzingoff " KD.

If the prices are " sky high " for an American imagine what they are for us .

[King_David]

7. That's simply not true, read the OP, most settled in Tel Aviv

Followed by Netanya then Jerusalem, Haifa and Ashdod.

[Israeli]

9. I did read the OP KD ...

your maths is appalling .....

" At the top of the list of cities that took in the most new immigrants in 2014 is none other than Tel Aviv, which welcomed 3,054 new citizens."

26,500 - 3,054 = ??

- Netanya then Jerusalem, Haifa and Ashdod ...= ??

[King_David]

8. When Hong Kong became part of China all the extremely wealthy

Bought the most expensive luxurious condos in Vancouver and Toronto to the resentment of local Canadians - that's normal human behavior worldwide.

[Israeli]

10. As long as you know ...

....what to expect KD .

Your money ....your choice.

[oberliner]

15. Most immigrants ended up over the Green Line?

Do you have a link to support that claim?

[Israeli]

27. Your not serious ....

....are you ?

Where do you think they go oberliner.......the Negev ??

Of course I do ....I could give you dozens of links for something that is common knowledge over here . How many links would you like ??

http://peacenow.org.il/eng/content/ariel-and-ariel-bloc

Is Ariel expanding?
Yes, Ariel is expanding. Hundreds of new housing units have been constructed in Ariel in the last few years, mostly located in the eastern tip of the settlement (i.e., the settlement is expanding deeper into the West Bank, rather than towards the Green Line). Since 1990 Ariel's population has more than doubled, mainly as a result of immigration to the country from the former Soviet Union.

[oberliner]

39. So you don't have a link to support your claim

Your bolded reference from Peace Now refers to a period from 1990-2004.

The link you provided in the OP lists the five cities that took in the greatest number of immigrants, and all were within the Green Line.

[Israeli]

54. Sure oberliner....

All new immigrants are absorbed within the Green Line ......

So lets reverse the rules .......

Instead of me proving to you where they actually ended up living .....where do you think they are actually living ?........in the Negev ??

[Scootaloo]

11. Tel Aviv, Dave?

Why restrict yourself? As Israeli points out, there's plenty of real estate to be had.

Afraid the JNF might question some things?

[King_David]

12. Not really understanding what your getting at,

But Tel Aviv is where all the Gay life is .

I know you don't get the Gay nor Zionism or Jewish stuff.

[Scootaloo]

13. And Tel Aviv is like half an hour from everywhere else.

C'mon Dave. Move to Kiryat Arba. You can go party on the weekends and you're out a few bucks for gas, plus you get cheap land with a view of lovely historic Hebron. It's yours after all, you know.

[King_David]

14. I didn't think you got it.....

[Scootaloo]

16. Well, I get that you're complaining about prices around Tel Aviv.

Israeli and I are telling you that there are cheaper places readily available for you, and all within easy range of Tel Aviv. Plus, god knows you've told us plenty about how the whole of Israel is so deeply infused with gay-friendliness that it totally excuses whatever else Israel gets up to, so I'm not really seeing the cause of your hesitation.

[King_David]

17. If I had to live in occupied territory, no matter how cheap , then one day when that becomes part of

A Palestinian state , as a Jew I may be killed or ethnically cleansed back to Israel .


But more tragic as a Gay , under a future Palestinian government I WILL be killed
( for being born gay ) ... No thank you Scootaloo ... I choose safe progressive Gay Tel Aviv....

Gays are allowed to live and thrive in Israel ...in Palestine ? Not so much...

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

18. "...as a Jew I may be killed or ethnically cleansed back to Israel."

Invaders being ethnically cleansed? I don't think that you have that right.

But more tragic as a Gay , under a future Palestinian government I WILL be killed...

Please stop with the character assassination of Palestinians please.

[King_David]

19. Oh ?

Gays are safe in Gaza ?

Really???

Please enlighten us all .

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

20. I'd rather you tell us how being "Ethnically cleansed" back into Israel wasn't a Freudian Schlep;

seeing how the key words "Back Into Israel" connotes that Israelis are squatting illegally outside of its borders in the West Bank.

[oberliner]

21. Should Jews be allowed to live in Palestine?

What about something like a right of return for Hebron?

[King_David]

22. Cmon Dan , name a gay bar in Ramallah or Gaza City

LOL

http://www.gaytlvguide.com

See you at Ramallah pride ...

[Scootaloo]

31. Your argument was property rates, Dave

Well, you know where you can get cheap housing, right?

[King_David]

33. Property rates ?

No I think that was yours and Israelis .


Try again Scootaloo....


LOL

[King_David]

41. No Freudian slip ,I have no argument with That.

That's why I wrote that "when the occupied territories become Palestine".

I believe in 2 states . ( The way it's going with Hamas there will be 3 )

So now that you see there's no slip there please enlighten us on how the LGBT are protected in Gaza .....

Go for it ....

[Scootaloo]

23. LMAO

"Ethnically cleansed back to Israel"



That's such a goddamned silly statement that I really have nothing to respond with except laughter.

[King_David]

24. As a Gay Jew

What my chances?

Not surprised Scootaloo finds that funny..

[Scootaloo]

25. I find it hilarious that you can't tell the difference...

between being deported form a place where you are illegally residing, and being ethnically cleansed.

Apparently President Obama is a monster in your eyes, seeing as he "ethnically cleansed" one and a half million people in his first term. And that number is growing!

Dave, you have just dethroned "Ethnic cleansing is like affirmative action" as the second-dumbest thing I have ever seen a zionist say on DU. Although close, you weren't quite able to beat "Flotilla to Tibet," because that is pure comedy, while your statement underlines some kind of worrisome thoughts you seem to entertain. But still, second place isn't bad.

[King_David]

26. Quite the diatribe Scootsloo and Quite expected from you Scootaloo

I do not think any one expects less from you.

Offensive is mild , and the only consolation is that I have seen this against others like myself specifically from Scootaloo


The problem Scootaloo is discussing a topic with those that don't know the details of the discussion even though they think they do :

PLO official: Palestine should be free of Jews

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4122473,00.html

I bet your not laughing so much anymore Scootaloo

LOL this is soooo easy.

[Scootaloo]

29. You tried to equate deportation of squatters with ethnic cleansing.

So... yeah, I'm still laughing. You made a very dumb argument and now you're trying to defend it.

Funny, your whole problem was that Tel Aviv property was too expensive. Now you're turning your tax rate argument into an argument of supposed Palestinian monstrosity.

Now tell me about your fanatic loyalty to the democratic party, just to bring your usual collection of bad arguments to a full circle.

[King_David]

32. Scootaloo here again is where I decimated your argument

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=91605

[azurnoir]

42. decimate? the link in your comment falsifies a quote from the PLO ambassador (?) to the US

nothing more or less

[King_David]

43. Really

What he said?

[azurnoir]

44. lets be clear this is spin on a statement made in 9/2011 during the 1rst UNSC Palestinian state

petition now for what was really said

Speaking to reporters in the US he said, "After the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict and friction, I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated."

Areikat made the statements after being asked about the rights of minorities in a future Palestinian state, USA Today reported. He declared that the PLO seeks a secular state, but that Palestinians need separation to work on their own national identity.

Later Wednesday, Palestinian Minister of Religious Affairs Mahmoud al-Habash dismissed Areikat's statements, saying that the Palestinian state is to welcome members of all faiths. He asserted that any media attempts to manipulate anti-Jewish statements are politically motivated.

He added that the Palestinian Authority and its ambassador to Washington have a clear stance on the matter.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4122473,00.html

and it is soooo easy

[King_David]

45. Maybe a mistranslation or something?

So in future me and my boyfriend or husband will be able to check into the Gaza City Hilton into a room which only has 1 Queen sized bed?

And our son can have his Barmitzvah at the Gaza City synagogue or even at the Kotel ?


Ha ha ha ha ha

[azurnoir]

46. What has any of that got to do with what we were discussing?

[King_David]

48. Re read thread ,

The tangent you went on really didn't have that much to do with the rest of the thread or even the post you replied to but I answered so as not to be rude.

[azurnoir]

49. it was your own tangent so please explin how a ynet link relates to your above post?

Star Member King_David (10,379 posts)
26. Quite the diatribe Scootsloo and Quite expected from you Scootaloo

I do not think any one expects less from you.

Offensive is mild , and the only consolation is that I have seen this against others like myself specifically from Scootaloo


The problem Scootaloo is discussing a topic with those that don't know the details of the discussion even though they think they do :

PLO official: Palestine should be free of Jews



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4122473,00.html

I bet your not laughing so much anymore Scootaloo

LOL this is soooo easy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=91605

[King_David]

50. I can't respond to "Echo" posts,

I get lost in all my own post therein.

[azurnoir]

53. you can not understand your own post?

[Israeli]

28. I seriously doubt that there is gay bars ....

....in Kiryat Arba Scoot .

There might well be .....are there KD ???

Whilst on the subject .....

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/12/25/shmuley-boteachs-multi-million-hasbara-ad-campaign-in-u-s-national-media/

[Scootaloo]

30. Well, they're within driving distance

I know people who spend more time behind the wheel to save a buck on milk.

His argument is property rates, well, he has a solution. but now it's all about how awful and evil the Arabs are.

[King_David]

34. "His argument is property rates"

Scootaloo that was Israel's argument .

But as usual you are attributing things to different posters and running with your own fabrications .I have seen you do this with other posters you disagree with in other forums and seen them complain too.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=91489

The most frustrating thing for you Scootaloo is that you don't seem to be able to get away with it when you try it with me.


LOL

[Israeli]

35. He is right about one thing Scoot ....

He is a lot safer in Tel Aviv than he would be in Kiryat Arba.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3914683,00.html

Plus ....



Baruch Marzel and others protesting the gay pride parade in Jerusalem, 2009

Yesterday’s spectacle of far rightists at the tent protest visiting from their illegal settlements in the West Bank was significant because they were scuffling with fellow citizens, rather than their disenfranchised and discriminated Palestinian neighbors who they usually scuffle with. They brought their extremist politics to a turf filled with secular Jews, activists, anarchists, gays and transgenders, making them appear the odd ones out.

Source: http://972mag.com/jewish-supremacy-visit-social-justice-protests/20091/

[King_David]

38. And then Israeli , I call the police and they protect me

And won't arrest me because I was Gay like they would in Iran and Gaza and Ramallah.

See how that works Israeli ?

I know your trying desperately hard.

Israel protects Gays .... Got it?

[King_David]

47. That's 2009 Israeli,

You got to get off your Kibbutz and out and about more ...

Here's 2014 :

Thousands converge in Jerusalem for annual gay pride parade

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Gay-Israelis-discuss-tolerance-in-Jerusalem-at-annual-gay-pride-parade-321824

[King_David]

36. Instead of reading that nonsense

Where that straight author writes that there are "thriving" Gay communities in Arab countries and territories surrounding Israel BUT the Gays are "not out", read a national Gay magazine instead.

Palestine and gay rights

http://www.advocate.com/politics/commentary/2006/07/11/palestine-and-gay-rights

[Israeli]

37. You are responding to my post # 28 ?

The " nonsense " is this :....?

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/12/25/shmuley-boteachs-multi-million-hasbara-ad-campaign-in-u-s-national-media/

Whilst ignoring a direct question KD .

Is there gay bars in Kiryat Arba or not ?

If not why not .

If yes why not Kiryat Arba before Tel Aviv ....its a hell of a lot cheaper .

[King_David]

40. I'm not sure ,Look it up in "Spartacus" Israeli

I know there isn't a gay bar in Gulfport Florida so my friend moved to Miami.

So what's your point again?

[Israeli]

51. My point is ...

...that our religious Right wing aka Kiryat Arba and Baruch Marzel have as much love for you as they do for us KD .

[King_David]

52. Agreed

Right wingers such as them and Hamas Al Quaida and ISIS hate the Gays passionately... No arguments there.

[bemildred]

4. Sharansky: 2014 'a year of record-breaking aliya'

Aliya up 32% over 2013 - France, Ukraine lead the pack.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Sharansky-2014-a-year-of-record-breaking-Aliyah-386279

[bemildred]

5. Exodus from France Leads Aliyah to 10-Year High

Immigration to Israel hit a 10-year high in 2014 with the arrival of approximately 26,500 new immigrants, 32 percent higher than last year’s 20,000 new “olim.”

France for the first time topped the list of countries of origin for immigrants, with nearly 7,000 Jews moving to Israel in 2014, double the 3,400 who came last year.

The other unusual rate of aliyah was from the Ukraine, from where 5,820 Jews moved to Israel, nearly three times the 2,020 who made aliyah in the previous year.

Jewish Agency Natan Sharansky chairman said, “2014 was a year of record-breaking Aliyah. This year also saw a historic shift: for the first time in Israel’s history, the number of immigrants who came to Israel from the free world is greater than that of immigrants fleeing countries in distress.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/exodus-from-france-leads-aliyah-to-10-year-high/2014/12/31/

[bemildred]

6. Historic Aliyah flight brings 226 Ukrainian Jews to Israel

http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/historic-flight-brings-226-ukrainian-jews-israel/