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Hotler

(11,353 posts)
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:25 PM Nov 2019

Jeffery Epstein and his undrground sex parties..

How deep and wide is underground pedophilia in Washington? While Googling stuff (Bohemian Grove, etc.) I ran into this. Sure it could be CT BS but, it's something that makes you go hhmmmm.
https://pedophilesdownunder.com/2016/02/22/bohemian-grove-pedo-hunting-parties-and-rent-boy-ranch/

The attraction of powerful people to little kids goes back a long way.

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Jeffery Epstein and his undrground sex parties.. (Original Post) Hotler Nov 2019 OP
It is all about power. redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #1
I dunno ... outright rape, for sure I agree 100% ... mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #4
Not surprised if it is true. 2naSalit Nov 2019 #2
I knew this fund manager who was a member of the club in SF and he once went to the Grove kimbutgar Nov 2019 #3
Eyes Wide Shut PubliusEnigma Nov 2019 #5
This story isn't believable to me. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2019 #6
Just like we weren't "seeing it" for jackson when it was right in front of us Merlot Dec 2019 #7
OMGAWD....... a kennedy May 2020 #8

redstatebluegirl

(12,264 posts)
1. It is all about power.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:27 PM
Nov 2019

Rape and pedophilia are about how they can dominate another person. It makes sense that in a town where power and domination are the way of the world this would be "normal".

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. I dunno ... outright rape, for sure I agree 100% ...
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

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But I think overall I think the subject of 'desire to get with young people' is a bit more complicated than that/doesn't boil down to one single cause, kinda like addiction/alcoholism isn't always caused by 'a rough childhood', for example.

Ever read the Wikipedia page on Bonobo's, our closest animal relative? It is pretty trippy actually.

Not saying acting like Apes is acceptable in our society ... but pretty much everything people do has roots in our animal heritage.

You're probably right about the motivations of these particular people, but I think they're a subgroup ... another subgroup would be the religious ones who want things to be like they were 1000 years ago, when girls were married off at 13 ... they're into it based on the odd notion that this is 'how things are supposed to be, because it was this way a long time ago, when religion ruled' ...

If you see what I'm getting at ... multiple motivations are involved in that sort of thing, overall.

2naSalit

(86,031 posts)
2. Not surprised if it is true.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:32 PM
Nov 2019

It;s been a while since the rules of interaction with the pages and other subordinates in the capitol were changed. It's been a while since pages, etc. have been complaining of inappropriate sexual behavior. Guess that whole scene went underground and Epstein was right there to capitalize the situation.

kimbutgar

(20,871 posts)
3. I knew this fund manager who was a member of the club in SF and he once went to the Grove
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:35 PM
Nov 2019

I asked him about it and he said he only went once and saw things he didn’t want to talk about. He had this strange look on his face like he was pained thinking about it. The guy was a pretty upstanding type of man who appeared to have decent morals in all the years I knew him. He never cheated on his wife or was a skirt chaser like some of his other company partners.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,461 posts)
6. This story isn't believable to me.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:28 PM
Nov 2019

I just don’t see Mick Jagger or Richard Nixon as people who would rape and murder children for fun. You’d have to be a truly sick and psychopathic person to engage in these activities. C’mon, Tommy Lee Jones? Just not seeing it.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
7. Just like we weren't "seeing it" for jackson when it was right in front of us
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:38 PM
Dec 2019

Not saying any of the people you've listed are doing these things. But as a society, there is a history of "not seeing" what is right in front of us.

weinstein and cosby come to mind. Look how long they did what they did.

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