Tue Apr 23, 2013, 09:48 AM
Ichingcarpenter (36,988 posts)
Sirus youtube full movie now
Catch it before its removed.
I just started watching it just only came up in the last hour. from the link: WHAT WILL YOU SEE? Dr. Steven Greer, founder of the worldwide Disclosure Movement and the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence is working with Emmy award winning filmmaker Amardeep Kaleka and his team at Neverending Light Productions to produce one of the most significant films of our time. This film exposes the greatest story never told:
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Ichingcarpenter | Apr 2013 | OP |
Berlum | Apr 2013 | #1 | |
Ichingcarpenter | Apr 2013 | #2 | |
Jamastiene | Apr 2013 | #3 | |
Ichingcarpenter | Apr 2013 | #5 | |
Ichingcarpenter | Apr 2013 | #4 | |
William Seger | Apr 2013 | #10 | |
Quantess | Apr 2013 | #11 | |
Cleita | Apr 2013 | #6 | |
Ichingcarpenter | Apr 2013 | #7 | |
zappaman | Apr 2013 | #8 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #12 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #13 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #14 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #15 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #16 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #17 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #18 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #19 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #20 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #21 | |
William Seger | May 2013 | #22 | |
frogmarch | May 2013 | #24 | |
William Seger | May 2013 | #27 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #23 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #26 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #28 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #29 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #30 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #31 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #32 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #34 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #35 | |
zappaman | May 2013 | #36 | |
NoMoreWarNow | May 2013 | #37 | |
In_The_Wind | Apr 2013 | #9 | |
William Seger | May 2013 | #25 | |
Logical | May 2013 | #33 |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:14 AM
Berlum (7,044 posts)
1. Thank you
Watch out for incoming deFlunkers.
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Response to Berlum (Reply #1)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:44 AM
Ichingcarpenter (36,988 posts)
2. Its interesting half way through
but I'm glad I didn't fork out the ten bucks for it.
But I never go to the movies or watch TV although I see what I want when I want most of the time on the internet. I'd give it a 6 out of 10 on IMBD... |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jamastiene (38,174 posts)
3. Gone already.
I wanted to see it even though the thought of an alien only being 6 inches tall just ruins all my daydreams about my home planet coming back to get me. I still want to see it though, because I am interested in the little ones too.
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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #3)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 11:48 AM
Ichingcarpenter (36,988 posts)
5. I got to see the whole thing
you are right .... its gone now.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 11:46 AM
Ichingcarpenter (36,988 posts)
4. More photos and commentary on the little alien INn
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #4)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 04:16 PM
William Seger (10,033 posts)
10. The little "alien" with human DNA? (n/t)
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #4)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:21 PM
Quantess (27,630 posts)
11. I hope masses of them invade earth!
That would be so exciting! That would be pretty funny if these little creatures bossed us around.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 12:01 PM
Cleita (75,480 posts)
6. That was quick.
Movie no longer available.
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Response to Cleita (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 12:03 PM
Ichingcarpenter (36,988 posts)
7. I warned you all
I do know some got to see it.
I might have other sources in a few days...but it won't be youtube. |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
8. Greer's "Sirius" Documentary - no "Bombshell," just Nonstop UFO Claims
OK, so I wasted $10 to watch Greer's UFO documentary film Sirius on-line on the night of its Word Premiere in Hollywood. I watched it so you won't have to. First there was the "Red Carpet Coverage" of the Premiere in real-time before the movie, which apparently is no longer available. It was mostly hoopla, with a strong anti-capitalist tone. The first ten minutes or so of the movie were included.
As the film opens, we see Greer going into a college auditorium in Santa Monica, the audience being checked with metal detectors for weapons. "Most people don't know what a Dead Man Trigger is." Very few people need one. But Greer has one - if the Conspiracy rubs him out, lots of sensitive documents get sent out to influential people. Excuse me while I barf - If Greer actually had any documents as hot as all that, he would have given them to the press long ago. Most of what we see after that comes in no particular order. We are given UFO cases and UFO witnesses in a popcorn sort of manner, no sooner does one bounce up than it falls back and another takes its place. There is no time (or need) for exposition, or analysis. Every case, and every claim, is apparently completely solid and needs no further explanation or proof. The "organization" of the film was such that one could have taken almost any segment of it, and switched it with any other, and the change would scarcely be noticed. Some things that we are shown, for the most part quite briefly, include, in no particular order: http://badufos.blogspot.com/2013/04/greers-sirius-documentary-no-bombshell.html |
Response to zappaman (Reply #8)
Wed May 1, 2013, 08:31 PM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
12. so all claims of UFOs and ETs are bogus
got it
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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #12)
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:35 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
13. If you know of any that aren't, you should let the world know.
I'm sure there are big bucks waiting for you as well for evidence of aliens.
So bring it! What are you waiting for??? |
Response to zappaman (Reply #13)
Thu May 2, 2013, 06:37 AM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
14. clearly there is no proof out there good enough for you
even though the evidence is overwhelming when taken together.
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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #14)
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:38 AM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
15. good enough for me?
who cares?
how about good enough for the scientific community or just the world in general? Again, if you have the evidence you should present it to the world! |
Response to zappaman (Reply #15)
Thu May 2, 2013, 05:10 PM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
16. the evidence is out there, it's not "mine"
as far as the scientific community, there really isn't a way to get grants to work on UFOs/ETs, as far as I know. There may be a few "scientists" who have studied UFOs, but you know, it's just not an intensively studied area. Plus, it doesn't help that the govt is covering up the best evidence-- and you *know* they have data and evidence on UFOs they haven't released.
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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #16)
Thu May 2, 2013, 05:25 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
17. "and you *know* they have data and evidence on UFOs they haven't released."
I do?
How would I know this? How would you know this? |
Response to zappaman (Reply #17)
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:38 PM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
18. do some reading, dude
seriously
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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #18)
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:59 AM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
19. I have read many many things about UFO's dude.
Point me to the accounts that cannot be explained.
Show me the best evidence. Seriously. |
Response to zappaman (Reply #19)
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:36 PM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
20. I think we have been down this road before, dude
And you have changed the issue. To be clear-- are you denying the govt is withholding evidence on UFOs?
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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #20)
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:55 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
21. I don't know the government is withholding evidence on UFO's.
Do you?
If so, how do you know? |
Response to zappaman (Reply #21)
Mon May 6, 2013, 01:11 PM
William Seger (10,033 posts)
22. Here's a video making big waves in UFOlogy
http://www.openminds.tv/deathbed-testimony-about-ufos-given-by-former-cia-official-video-1002/
Either the guy is totally delusional, a bald-faced liar, or... ![]() |
Response to William Seger (Reply #22)
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:07 PM
frogmarch (12,009 posts)
24. Ike was going to invade
Area 51.
![]() "Anonymous" is making a name for himself in UFO circles with this load of bs. Too bad the name is "Anonymous." What fun would that be? lol |
Response to frogmarch (Reply #24)
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:49 PM
William Seger (10,033 posts)
27. But that was the ONLY part of his story that was unique
The rest of it was pretty much a synopsis of Independence Day. I would have expected a few new details from a real insider. There was virtually nothing in it that could be independently verified, either.
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Response to zappaman (Reply #21)
Mon May 6, 2013, 01:52 PM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
23. That is the reading I was referring to
It's in several books. Do you want a list?
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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #23)
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:35 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
26. Sure.
Show me all the evidence that says the government is withholding evidence about UFOs.
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Response to zappaman (Reply #26)
Thu May 9, 2013, 06:42 AM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
28. you could start here
http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-Chronology/dp/1571743170/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1365967647&sr=8-2&keywords=richard+dolan "Richard M. Dolan is a gifted historian whose study of U.S. Cold War strategy led him to the broader context of increased security measures and secrecy since World War II. One aspect of such government policies that has continued to hold the public's imagination for over half a century is the question of unidentified flying objects. UFOs and the National Security State is the first volume of a two-part detailed chronological narrative of the national security dimensions of the UFO phenomenon from 1941 to the present. Working from hundreds of declassified records and other primary and secondary sources, Dolan centers his investigation on the American military and intelligence communities, demonstrating that they take UFOs seriously indeed. Included in this volume are the activities of more than fifty military bases relating to UFOs, innumerable violations of sensitive airspace by unknown craft and analyses of the Roswell controversy, the CIA-sponsored Robertson Panel, and the Condon Committee Report. Dolan highlights the development of civilian anti-secrecy movements, which flourished in the 1950s and 1960s until the adoption of an official government policy and subsequent "closing of the door" during the Nixon administration." |
Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #28)
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:13 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
29. Just another grifter...
With this in mind, an objective read of UFOs and the National Security State, on which Dolan’s reputation in the UFO field as a serious researcher is largely based, shows it to be nothing more than conspiracy theory masquerading as a serious historical study.
Take, for example, Dolan’s conclusions about the death of Captain Edward Ruppelt, which can be found at pp. 236 – 237. Dolan writes: “We are to believe that his ‘exposure’ to the Contactees prompted him publicly to insult Keyhoe, a man whom Ruppelt knew despised the Contactees… The key lies in Ruppelt’s ‘continuing association’ with Blue Book and air force personnel. No doubt, that was a crucial factor… In the context of Ruppelt’s recent stance toward the air force on UFOs, his rapid and total conversion, and his death at such a young age, matters ought to look suspicious, particularly in light of the capabilities that existed within the American national security apparatus by this time. Whether he was actually killed, or whether he died from the stress brought on by what he had gone through (the belief of [Frank] Edwards and Keyhoe), there seems little reason to doubt that Ruppelt was coerced.” [emphasis in original] Little reason to doubt? The fact is that Ruppelt died of his second heart attack, showing that he already had significant health problems. Heart disease is not confined to senior citizens; it can, and in this case clearly did, strike men and women still in the prime of life (a subject I know something about, having been put on cholesterol and blood pressure medication in my mid 30s). Also, Dolan rejects, with no foundation, the testimony of the person who perhaps knew Ruppelt best – his wife, who told researchers that his change of mind had nothing to do with pressure from the government. Much more at the link http://redstarfilms.blogspot.com/2005/05/richard-dolan-ufologys-alan-bullock-or.html |
Response to zappaman (Reply #29)
Thu May 9, 2013, 08:11 PM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
30. the issue at hand was that the government was hiding info on UFOs
... that excerpt from a clearly biased reviewer hardly disproves anything. It seems, you have no interest in doing any reading into this. Or will only read stuff that conforms to your POV.
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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #30)
Thu May 9, 2013, 08:14 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
31. Why would I believe anything from a bullshit artist?
If Rush Limbaugh told you he had evidence of government coverups of UFOs, would you believe it?
The review seems right on target using the author's own words to show that he is full of shit. That's not biased. |
Response to zappaman (Reply #31)
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:13 AM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
32. seems like you are calling him a bullshit artist to avoid
critically evaluating the book yourself. Nonetheless, the book is filled with massive amounts of facts about the government and UFOs.
I should point out that the review you cite is from a competing UFO researcher, who has every incentive to put down Dolan. Further, it seems odd that he has nothing positive to say about a huge book, and just takes two little excerpts on very complicated characters (Ruppelt and MacDonald), and trashes Dolan's speculations. In any case, since you seem to admire Kimble, why don't you look at the video he has on his site for best UFO evidence? By the way, on his Facebook page, Kimble notes he is in the RCMP (basically like Canada's FBI), and thus may well have govt or intelligence ties. |
Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #32)
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:32 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
34. So your best evidence is some guy wrote a book saying it's true.
Therefore it's true.
Okay. I am convinced. |
Response to zappaman (Reply #34)
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:31 AM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
35. Life is too short to waste time on people who think there is nothing to UFOs
and can't see that the government is covering up the issue.
Really, what a ridiculous position that is. Why you are taking that position, I have no idea. |
Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #35)
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:32 PM
zappaman (20,587 posts)
36. 'Really, what a ridiculous position that is. Why you are taking that position, I have no idea."
Back at ya.
So far, you have not presented any evidence of a coverup. |
Response to zappaman (Reply #36)
Sat May 11, 2013, 06:55 PM
NoMoreWarNow (1,259 posts)
37. seriously-- if you honestly think the government isn't hiding anything regarding
UFOs, I just don't know what to say to you. I have no idea what evidence you are expecting. But there are scads of books, articles, blogposts and lectures on this. The government LIVES to keep "national security" secrets like this. It's about as obvious as anything in politics.
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 03:59 PM
In_The_Wind (72,300 posts)
9. I wasted my popcorn. I want my admission fee back!
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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:09 PM
William Seger (10,033 posts)
25. "Great Job, Citizen Hearing on Disclosure!"
Last week, after the first day of the Greer's and Steve Bassett's Citizen Hearing on Disclosure at the National Press Club, a very woo-friendly site called High Strangeness asked: "Holy Crap, Four More Days of This??"
Their final review begins with this: Great Job, Citizen Hearing on Disclosure!
Well done, Steve Bassett and Steven Greer. I've been monitoring mainstream press coverage of your Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, and I think I can safely say that you have set the field of UFO research back about a thousand years. Maybe two thousand. If it didn't, the Sirius movie should do it -- it totally reeks. |
Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:55 PM
Logical (22,457 posts)
33. lease provide the BEST PROOF that UFOs are alien spacecraft. Best story or example. n-t