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nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 05:55 AM Sep 2014

Deutsche Bank Building

The Deutsche Bank Building was a skyscraper at 130 Liberty Street in New York City, United States, adjacent to the World Trade Center (WTC)...

The Deutsche Bank Building was heavily damaged in the September 11 attacks in 2001 after being blasted by the avalanche of debris, ash, dust, and asbestos that spread from the collapse of the South Tower...



The collapse of 2 World Trade Center during the September 11 attacks tore a 24-story gash into the facade of the Deutsche Bank Building. Steel and concrete were sticking out of the building for months afterward...

...On August 18, 2007 at approximately 3:40pm, a seven-alarm fire broke out on the 17th floor of the building, caused by workers' careless smoking... By this time, the skyscraper, once 41 stories, had been reduced to 26, with crews removing a floor a week. At the time of the fire, crews were removing asbestos. The fire spread in both directions, affecting a total of 10 floors...



...Firefighting was additionally hampered as the building did not have a functioning standpipe, forcing firefighters to raise hoses up from the street to combat the flames... The fire burned into the night before being extinguished. 45 Engine Companies, 30 Ladder Companies, 3 Rescue Companies, 19 Battalion Chief Units, 4 Division Chief's Units, and numerous other special and support units responded from the New York City Fire Department to combat the fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bank_Building

The Deutsche Bank Building:

Struck and "heavily damaged" by debris- Check
Raging 7 alarm fire for hours- Check

Collapse into its own footprint- No Check

NIST:
"The collapse of WTC 7 is the first known instance of a tall building brought down primarily by uncontrolled fires."
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtc7.cfm

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Deutsche Bank Building (Original Post) nationalize the fed Sep 2014 OP
I worked in that building for 8 years. SeattleVet Sep 2014 #1
WTC 7 the first high rise fire not be fought superbeachnut Sep 2014 #2
WTC 7 had a radically different structural design hack89 Sep 2014 #3
Dishonest and misleading OP hack89 Sep 2014 #4
Did you read the OP? BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #5
The comparison to WTC 7 was dishonest and misleading hack89 Sep 2014 #6

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
1. I worked in that building for 8 years.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:33 AM
Sep 2014

By the time the fire broke out it was a bare shell...it was in the midst of the deconstruction.

Everything had been removed...no office equipment, furniture, or anything else that would feed a fire with highly flammable materials that burned at varying temperatures (plastic, magnesium frameworks in some equipment, diesel fuel in the big tank for the generators that had been on the 40th floor as a part of the uninterruptible power supply system, large battery banks, etc. Mostly what was burning was the plywood/OSB that they had been using as a part of the deconstruction process, and not the mix of materials that would have been there immediately following the original incident (remember, this building had been unoccupied for the 6 years prior to the deconstruction).

The structural framework of this building was also vastly different than either of the WTC towers or WTC 7.

superbeachnut

(381 posts)
2. WTC 7 the first high rise fire not be fought
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:55 AM
Sep 2014

Oops, they fought this fire. Oh darn the analogy fails. WTC 7 was not the first high-rise to be lost to fire. 911 truth can't figure out 911 after 13 years of failure.

Stuck in Creative Speculation, 911 truth claims are not creative now, they are repeated failure from years ago.

911 truth evidence for all claims remains at, Zero.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
3. WTC 7 had a radically different structural design
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:33 PM
Sep 2014

because it was built over a ConEd substation.

WTC 7 had a massive gouge in its side and the FDNY was monitoring a bulge in the side for several hours before it collapsed.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Dishonest and misleading OP
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:35 PM
Sep 2014

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it did not burn on 9/11 - the fire was three years later when it was being taken apart. It was half dissassembled and empty when the fire happened - the weight and stress on the structure was significantly reduced.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. The comparison to WTC 7 was dishonest and misleading
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:01 AM
Sep 2014

If both buildings had burned out of control on 911 then the OP might have a point.

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