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Anna45

(2 posts)
2. Yes but
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 07:51 AM
Jun 2012

I agree, but then shouldn't we mind our own biz re: religious life? Why do we keep trying to force our way into the sanctuary, when we don't want THEM to force their way into our marriages, bedroom, uteri, etc? We need to get over our double-standard. Freedom for me, but not for thee. That's silly. COEXIST.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
3. There is absolutely NO law that MAKES any religious institution marry anyone!!!!
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 08:01 AM
Jun 2012

There are people with many different religious backgrounds or non at all. I eloped and was married at the court house. I work for a couple who are Hindu's; they wouldn't be married by a Catholic Church....

Your assertion that the govt is forcing its way into any church is ludicrous. I actually think many churches go too far or cross the line and push for political candidates and issues from the pulpit... I object to that strenuously, and I feel that if they do that, they should lose their tax exempt status.

You have like 2 posts on this board. Perhaps if you stick around, you will learn a thing or two. And you will learn that the things sent to your e-mail or said on Faux Snooze or any of the other "liberal media" outlets is often lies and propaganda.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. The lack of reality in your post is stunning.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:02 AM
Jun 2012

Also, it is such an old, hackneyed tactic. Get some new material, for crying out loud.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
5. to what specific instances do you refer?
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jun 2012

What instances can you cite where "we" are "trying to force our way into the sanctuary"?

Do tell, please. I just can't think of any.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
6. What a pantload.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

Devoid of any other argument against marriage equality, the "they will force churches to marry teh gehs" canard always comes out as the argument of last resort.

Meh.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Who is forcing their way into the sanctuary? Can you cite a single fact
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jun 2012

on this? I doubt it, but nice try with the double standard. Failsauce, but nice try.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
12. First, there is nothing in the cartoon which indicates the ceremony is a religoius one.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jun 2012

It looks very similar to my brother and sister-in-law's wedding, which was carried out by a judge in their back yard.

Second, same gender marriage and participation in religious life are not exclusive. I am a person of faith, and have been all of my life. As a member of my faith community, I asked my faith community to take my marriage under its care (the term we use for marriage). It took more than 8 years, but we finally reached unity to move forward. Support for same gender couples is now a cornerstone of our work in the world - and the spiritual process we went through to get to where we are today is held up by those who participated as a spiritual high point in their lives.

I did not force my way into the sanctuary - I have been there all my life. It is part and parcel of who I am - and it would have been spiritually irresponsible of me not to have brought my request to our meeting.

As to other faith communities - it is up to the members of those communities to raise the question in those communities if they are led to do wo. No one, absolutely no one, has suggested creating a legal requirement that a faith community perform marriages that are not in accordance with their teachings.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. I'll coexist with people that want to kill me
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jun 2012

About the same time Israelis will sing Kum-by-ua with people in Iran.

Not saying either should go to war, but fuck you if you think I'm going to get cozy with Christians that were screaming last week that I should die.

Don't like the analogy? Then don't exemplify it, idiots.

FloridaJudy

(9,465 posts)
15. As far as I know
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:15 PM
Jun 2012

None of my GLBT friends has ever asked to be married by the kind of church that doesn't accept them. It would be more than just nice, it would be only fair if the same-sex marriages performed in churches that do extend their hands to all were legally recognized as well.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. You really earned your PPR with that crap. No one can force any minister or church to marry anyone
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jun 2012

and that is a red herring that conservatives keep feeding people that has no basis in reality.

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