Human rights court: Europe cannot be forced to redefine marriage

[theHandpuppet]

Human rights court: Europe cannot be forced to redefine marriage
By Adelaide Mena
Strasbourg, France, Jul 18, 2014

the refusal to recognize same-sex “marriages” does not violate the European Convention on Human Rights.

In a July 16 ruling, the human rights court explained that while “some Contracting States have extended marriage to same-sex partners,” European laws establishing the right of men and women to freely marry “cannot be construed as imposing an obligation on the Contracting States to grant access to marriage to same-sex couples.”

The applicant to the high European human rights court brought his petition after Finland refused to recognize the his 2009 sex change from male to female.

Finland, which does not recognize same-sex “marriages,” said it could not recognize the sex change of a person validly married to a person of the opposite sex. The country said it could only recognize the applicant’s new identity if his marriage to his wife was dissolved either by divorce or transformation into a civil partnership....

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[Fearless]

1. So this is what they're saying...

The rights of people who aren't impacted by "redefining marriage" are more important than the rights of people who are actually impacted by "redefining marriage".

Utter bullshit!

[Joe Magarac]

3. What they are *really* saying ...

The EU would Balkanize if they tried to enforce compliance on certain new members to the east.

[Fearless]

4. What I'm saying is people need to grow up.

[Joe Magarac]

5. Oh I agree.

Get married in France, avoid Poland.

[Fearless]

6. Or let people marry wherever they want as it doesn't affect anyone else.

[Joe Magarac]

7. But first you need to get their governments to agree. That's the hard part. n/y

[Fearless]

9. Some people need to be brought along kicking and screaming. n/t

[Joe Magarac]

10. And if the "human rights" court does not have such authority?

It's not like the US Supremes.

If Poland wants out of the EU, they are out. Thereby setting a precedent of countries leaving the EU, which the EU mucky-mucks do not want ever to happen. Or declare war on Poland? I don't think so.

Politics is "the art of the possible".

Personally, I'll concentrate on equality in all 50 states + US territories.

Fuck Europe.

[Fearless]

12. We can do both

Equality anywhere supports equality everywhere. I didn't say they had the power to change things. I only made an observation.

[uriel1972]

2. I wonder who got to 'define' marriage in the first place?

Where and when. As if it hasn't changed over the years anyway.

[theHandpuppet]

8. Here's a brief overview

http://theweek.com/article/index/228541/how-marriage-has-changed-over-centuries

[Joe Magarac]

11. Not to put too fine a point on it -- The Roman Catholic Church.

Mostly in Poland, plus some other new EU members out that way.

"What right do they have?" is not a useful response.

To paraphrase Stalin: How many divisions do you have?