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Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:10 PM

Spot the difference between these 2 things:

Firestorm debate my ass.
Note the attempt at false equivalency here:
Comparing herself to people denied service, rights, even human dignity due to inherent traits compared to her
to be a self-righteous bigot encouraging more bigotry.
If the courts don't stop falling for this false equivalency in all these bullshit "religious liberty" cases, we're inching that much closer to concentration camps and repeating the most shameful periods of history.
I'll reiterate to any of the "choice to be LGBTQ" kneejerkers:
The only choice I make is to be honest with myself and others. *and*...
So when did you decide to be straight?

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Response to lambchopp59 (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:14 PM

1. The press trying to gin this thing us a few notches with false poutrage.

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Response to lambchopp59 (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:15 PM

2. Refusal to provide service might violate a section of Richmond city code.

I don't know. IANAL.

I DC, I'm pretty certain that such a refusal of service would be a violation of city code.

This again:

Sun Dec 13, 2020: A business associating with the "Punk Boys" and other fascists should be boycotted to ruin

Sun Dec 13, 2020: In DC, they stay at the Hotel Harrington. They frequent Harry's Bar on the ground level.

A lot of tourists stay at the Hotel Harrington. A lot of people frequent Harry's Bar. The Hotel Harrington is near everything, and it is within the budget of many tourists.

Neither the bar nor the hotel can discriminate against people who live, visit, or work in the District of Columbia on the basis of political affiliation. Under DC law, that is a protected trait.

Here. See for yourself.

Protected Traits in DC Under the DC Human Rights Act

The DC Office of Human Rights enforces the DC Human Rights Act, which makes discrimination illegal based on 21 protected traits for people that live, visit or work in the District of Columbia. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination in housing, employment, public accommodations and educational institutions.

Protected Traits for Housing, Employment, Public Accommodations and Educational Institutions include:

1. Race: classification or association based on a personís ancestry or ethnicity
2. Color: skin pigmentation or complexion
3. Religion: a belief system which may or may not include spirituality
4. National origin: the country or area where oneís ancestorís are from
5. Sex: a personís gender; sex discrimination includes sex harassment, and discrimination based on pregnancy, childbirth, related medical conditions, breastfeeding, and reproductive health decisions.
6. Age: 18 years or older
7. Marital status: married, single, in a domestic partnership, divorced, separated, and widowed
8. Personal appearance: outward appearance, but is subject to business requirements or standards
9. Sexual orientation: homosexuality, heterosexuality, and bisexuality
10. Gender identity or expression: your gender-related identity, behavior, appearance, expression or behavior which is different from what you are assigned at birth
11. Family responsibilities: supporting a person in a dependent relationship, which includes, but is not limited to, your children, grandchildren and parents.
12. Political affiliation: belonging to or supporting a political party
13. Disability: a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities; includes those with HIV/AIDS.

Additional Traits Applicable to Some Areas include:

14. Matriculation (applies to housing, employment and public accommodations): being enrolled in a college, university or some type of secondary school.
15. Familial Status (applies to housing, public accommodations and educational institutions): a parent or guardian with children under 18
16. Genetic information (applies to employment and public accommodations): Your DNA or family history which may provide information as to a personís predisposition or likely to come down with a disease or illness.
17. Source of Income (applies to housing, public accommodations and educational institutions): origination of a personís finances
18. Place of Residence or Business (applies to housing and public accommodations): geographical location of home or work
19. Status as a Victim of an Intrafamily Offense (applies to housing): a person who was subjected to domestic violence, sexual assault and stalking
Please note that these definitions are not exhaustive.
20. Credit Information (applies to employment): any written, verbal or other communication of information bearing on an employee's creditworthiness, credit standing, credit capacity or credit history.
21. *NEW* Status as a Victim or Family Member of a Victim of Domestic Violence, a Sexual Offense, or Stalking*(applies to employment): a person or family member of a person who has experienced domestic violence, a sexual offense, or stalking.

This information is also available in PDF format.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:42 PM

3. Why are you quoting Washington DC law for Virginia?

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:46 PM

5. Because city code like this is getting widespread. I don't know the Richmond code, but

it is quite likely that Richmond has similar code.

I linked to the DC code as an example of what you might find in many cities these days.

Thanks for writing.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 7, 2022, 05:14 PM

6. I can find no such ordinance. Plus it happened 3 days ago; someone would've likely mentioned it.

The story is all over conservative / Christian news sites & has been for two days & none have mentioned such an ordinance or city code.

Plus I did what I'd consider an okay search for ordinances or city codes regarding who businesses have to server or cannot discriminate against and found nothing.

Also, there were at least two instances in the news during the Trump Years when his supporters were denied service in restaurants; nothing came of either insofar as the establishment breaking any laws.

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Response to lambchopp59 (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:44 PM

4. The GOP-packed courts are "falling" for nothing; it's very intentional.

This is exactly why McConnell has worked so hard since 2010 to fill federal courts with far right ideologues, nearly always Federalist members.

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