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Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:25 PM Jan 2015

On Their First Day Back, Congress Introduces Abortion Ban

http://jezebel.com/on-their-first-day-back-congress-introduces-abortion-b-1678050419



Never ones to waste a second in their unending quest to fuck you over, on the first day of the new Congress, House Republicans re-introduced a bill to ban abortion after 20 weeks. It'll pass, and then it'll go to the Senate, where it'll also pass, and then it'll go to the president, who will veto it. This is a solid, non-bullshit use of our tax dollars! [Violently rage-barfs.]

The bill, HR 36, known as the Pain Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, was introduced by Reps. Trent Franks of Arizona and Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee; it would ban all abortions after 20 weeks, under the completely bogus premise that fetuses feel pain at that point in gestation. Franks introduced an identical measure last session, as he has for years, even though, as RH Reality Check points out, a fetal pain measure was found to be unconstitutional in his home state. Last year, the bill passed in a party-line vote before dying in the Senate.

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Now that the Republicans have a majority in both the House and Senate, the bill will likely make it all the way to the president's desk, although there is literally no chance that he'll sign it. So here we are, heading for another session where we get to watch of largely male senior citizens with dust collecting on their genitals play ping-pong with our reproductive rights. Reminder, people under 30: this is what happens when you don't fucking vote.

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On Their First Day Back, Congress Introduces Abortion Ban (Original Post) Starry Messenger Jan 2015 OP
"...this is what happens with you don't f*ing vote". CincyDem Jan 2015 #1
Right? Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #2
But voting for Hillary would be the same as voting for these guys, I am told randys1 Jan 2015 #3
This "they're all the same" meme is just another RW strategy that's working. CincyDem Jan 2015 #8
How many days left until we can vote them out? President Obama will veto this but they will vote to jwirr Jan 2015 #4
2016 Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #5
Seems to me that this list is a good one to keep. It is these guys we should be bugging with calls, jwirr Jan 2015 #6
Good idea. Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #7

CincyDem

(6,351 posts)
1. "...this is what happens with you don't f*ing vote".
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jan 2015

Quite possibly the most important line.

We're going to see chit we never imagined come out of this congress. By the time they're done, people will look back a Ryan's budget with longing eyes wishing we could get back to that.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
2. Right?
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:34 PM
Jan 2015

I fought with quite a few young people (often males) online before the election, who half-heartedly conceded "Oh that" when I brought up reproductive laws as at least one reason to get up and vote.

I hate that we are going to have to suffer through some harsh fucking years to teach everyone the lesson. Again.

CincyDem

(6,351 posts)
8. This "they're all the same" meme is just another RW strategy that's working.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 11:35 PM
Jan 2015


I don't know chit about political strategy but I do know product strategy. When you've got a superior product - you advertise the hell out of the benefits. When you have an inferior product - you advertise the hell out of the idea that there's no difference among products.

Retags have an inferior product and they're convincing the country that "there's no real difference" and, in the end, low involvement citizens fall into the trap. At the same time, Dems (who I believe have a superior ideological product) don't effectively market the superiority of their position.

Sheesh its frustrating.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. How many days left until we can vote them out? President Obama will veto this but they will vote to
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jan 2015

send it back to him and they will continue for the whole two years. Not just this - repeal Obamacare, cut food stamps, cut social security, etc. This is going to get tiring fast.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
5. 2016
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.periodicalpress.senate.gov/reelection-2016/

Republican Senators up for re-election:

Kelly Ayotte (New Hampshire)
Roy Blunt (Missouri)
John Boozman (Arkansas)
Richard Burr (North Carolina)
Dan Coats (Indiana)
Mike Crapo (Idaho)
Chuck Grassley (Iowa)
John Hoeven (North Dakota)
Johnny Isakson (Georgia)
Ron Johnson (Wisconsin)
Mark Kirk (Illinois)
James Lankford (Oklahoma)
Mike Lee (Utah)
John McCain (Arizona)
Jerry Moran (Kansas)
Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
Rand Paul (Kentucky)
Rob Portman (Ohio)
Marco Rubio (Florida)
Tim Scott (South Carolina)
Richard Shelby (Alabama)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Pat Toomey (Pennsylvania)
David Vitter (Louisiana)

Two years basically will be wasted on this shit, if not more. The remaining Dems will push forward progressive legislation, but it will simply be to get contrasting ideas out, and keep things around for coalitions in the grassroots to rally around.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. Seems to me that this list is a good one to keep. It is these guys we should be bugging with calls,
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jan 2015

letters etc. non-stop. They are vulnerable and we may be able to convince them they are in danger of losing in 2016. Worth a try.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
7. Good idea.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jan 2015

I like your proactive spirit!

Here's a good article from after the election that I had missed, that also gives cause for optimism:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/06/senate-2016_n_6109472.html



In 2016, as Democrats work to retake the Senate, they have a chance to do it while simultaneously expanding the ranks of their progressive members, given the tilt of the playing field. In Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Wisconsin and Iowa, Democrats have the potential to elect progressive senators in seats currently held by Republicans. Much, however, will depend on recruiting, and whether the decision is made to target populist-progressive types in the vein of Warren, or more centrist, corporate-friendly picks such as Virginia's Mark Warner.

What many activists are hoping is that the caucus will take note that progressive issues like the minimum wage, reproductive rights and criminal justice reform won on Tuesday, even though many Democratic candidates did not. The question is whether to double down on those positions or abandon them in favor of the moderate, Democrat-lite platforms that were so popular during the 2014 cycle.

"If the ballot measure results are any indication, actual progressive policies remain popular with voters in red and blue states. I believe you’ll see a Senate Democratic caucus fight on behalf of those policies and provide the votes if and when Republicans are ready to act," said Faiz Shakir, a senior adviser to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

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Meanwhile, Republicans need to defend 24 seats. Democrats likely will need to pick up five seats to take back the Senate. They'll have a variety of routes to get there.

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