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Everyday violence against women (Original Post) janterry Jun 2021 OP
Degenerate cowardly little men... Kittycatkat Jun 2021 #1
she's so lucky janterry Jun 2021 #2
And the reason they do this is because they think it is funny and fun. And this kind of Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #3
I used to drive a boy to school janterry Jun 2021 #5
Pack behavior Bayard Jun 2021 #4
Dublin Train Station janterry Jun 2021 #6
No. Normal behavior for a certain type of male, regardless of whether they are alone or in a group. Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #7
Words I can find; outrage is objective; machismo is madness sanatanadharma Jun 2021 #8
 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
2. she's so lucky
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jun 2021

the train guard pulled her up quickly.

I'm sorry to say, I've spent a lot of time talking to my daughter about sex-based violence and how to protect herself. Honestly, when she goes off to college, I'm going to buy her pepper spray.

Scrivener7

(50,897 posts)
3. And the reason they do this is because they think it is funny and fun. And this kind of
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jun 2021

behavior, though not the fall on the tracks, happens everywhere, every day.

And men are either doing it, or are completely in denial that other men do it.

"Oh, you're just too sensitive." "Oh, it was a mistake." "Oh, they're just high-spirited kids." "Are you SURE that's what happened? Didn't she just trip? Anyone could trip." "Oh, it's because they were in a group. My Johnny would never act that way on his own!" "Oh, why would those women run into the midst of them in the first place?" "Oh, most boys (men) are not like that".

I love that last one. "I would never do that, so why are you blaming me for it?" "That's a one-off. An aberration. Most men don't behave like that, so it isn't a big deal." "Women are mean to men a lot too."

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
5. I used to drive a boy to school
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jun 2021

and the stories my daughter told me about him (shocking!).

His mother is a nice, college educated professional who would not believe he would act that way.

But he does .

Scrivener7

(50,897 posts)
7. No. Normal behavior for a certain type of male, regardless of whether they are alone or in a group.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:49 AM
Jun 2021

Yes, they tend to find each other, but their behavior is not caused by the pack.

Get any of those men/boys/worms alone with a girl, and he will treat her badly.

sanatanadharma

(3,685 posts)
8. Words I can find; outrage is objective; machismo is madness
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 02:19 PM
Jun 2021

As I replied in this thread, https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215544975
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215544975

Behind, beneath, at base of human cruelty is the near universal truth of poorly integrated, sick-selves who never learned self-worth nor self-control and thus seek-satisfaction through sadism.

Within and under the question why? is a deeper truth about the human condition.

Why do people confuse/ conflate the 'self' with 'non-self'?
Why is it so hard to understand the beam and mote?

The 'self' is objectively this "body-mind-sense-complex with a name and a story.
No good comes when the truth-value-worth of this 'self' falsely becomes subjectively mixed-up with objectively other selves.

We all understand human-subjectivity and tolerate (or try to avoid) those with out of-bounds subjectivity (partly cultural/social boundaries). Those whose subjectivity is too-far-out are not tolerated (prisons, mental hospitals, shunning, exile).

Now, if we could only teach our kids the truth about their "self', they would all grow up saintly without the need/desire for crushing others to feel good themselves.

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