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mopinko

(70,070 posts)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:04 PM Aug 2021

feminism 101- recommend a book or movie

so, i have a friend who is 40, educated, but says she's read zero feminist theory.
maybe she and i dont have the same idea of that word, but...
she's someone who is a mess because of a macho, toxic family. she should just tell them to go fuck themselves, but she really wants to try to articulate what the fucking problem is.

so, she wants recommendations.
i'm gonna look through my library and see what i have. but it seems like forever ago that reading led me to thinking and being someone who is whole, and makes no apologies for it. (or so i tell myself.)
i dont remember where my path started beyond ms magazine and 'fat is a feminist issue'.

what books or movies opened your eyes?

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feminism 101- recommend a book or movie (Original Post) mopinko Aug 2021 OP
A couple of popular culture statement movies: FalloutShelter Aug 2021 #1
this isnt really what i was thinking. mopinko Aug 2021 #3
Sorry, I misunderstood your request. FalloutShelter Aug 2021 #4
it's okay. and yeah, she mopinko Aug 2021 #5
I'll start WhiteTara Aug 2021 #2
All good choices. cbabe Aug 2021 #6
The Copper Woman story is among my favorite WhiteTara Aug 2021 #7
Marilyn French, The War Against Women musette_sf Sep 2021 #8
now that name rings a bell. mopinko Sep 2021 #9
A really, really important book, musette_sf Sep 2021 #10
The Telling Collection, Women Before Roe musette_sf Sep 2021 #11
Feminism Unmodified by Catharine MacKinnon Stargleamer Sep 2021 #12

FalloutShelter

(11,845 posts)
1. A couple of popular culture statement movies:
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:22 PM
Aug 2021

Norma Rae, Silkwood and Erin Brockivich are all about women finding their power as whistle blowers in systems that did not value their voices.

On edit: Hidden Figures

mopinko

(70,070 posts)
3. this isnt really what i was thinking.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:42 PM
Aug 2021

i'm sure she's seen plenty of strong women.
she needs to pick apart how and why she was treated like the dog in her home. she's never done that.
i plan to pass on some early steinem books i have.

she needs to figure this put about her mom, too. which is why 'fat is a feminist issue' popped into my head. cuz her mom is real heavy, and has the usual health bs, plus autoimmune shit.
she tried to tell me she didnt judge her, til i pointed out that pity is a judgement.

she doesnt need inspiration so much as understanding.

FalloutShelter

(11,845 posts)
4. Sorry, I misunderstood your request.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:55 PM
Aug 2021

Sounds like she would benefit from a support group.
I hope she will take your support and advice in the spirit in which it is offered.

mopinko

(70,070 posts)
5. it's okay. and yeah, she
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:57 PM
Aug 2021

has gotten a lot of support from me, and she appreciates it.
she is actively trying to work this stuff out, which is usually the hard part.
i'm honest with her, and i think it's helping her put her finger on some things.

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
2. I'll start
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:47 PM
Aug 2021

The Great Cosmic Mother
When God Was A Woman
Daughters of Copper Woman
Crone


These are seminal works that give you another perspective about humanity.

cbabe

(3,538 posts)
6. All good choices.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:23 PM
Aug 2021

Thought I was the only one who ever heard of Copper Woman. Cheers.

Femine mystique
Men explain things to me
The beauty myth

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
7. The Copper Woman story is among my favorite
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:54 PM
Aug 2021

I think probably the most profound book of my list is The Great Cosmic Mother by Monica Sjoo and Barbara Walker.

Lynn Redmond's When Women Were Drummers is also great.

I like Betty Friedan
but the other two are later than my generation but I can see that they would be of definite benefit to help women struggle through the maze of the patriarchy and how to be authentic humans in our female form.

mopinko

(70,070 posts)
9. now that name rings a bell.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 08:06 AM
Sep 2021

i had to look it up. i knew i had read her- the women's room.
i swear i read this stuff so long ago.

i think the bell jar is one she should read, too.

musette_sf

(10,200 posts)
10. A really, really important book,
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:05 PM
Sep 2021

especially in light of the terrorism going on in Texas, is The Girls Who Went Away by Ann Fessler.

https://www.thegirlswhowentaway.com/

The torture, imprisonment, and vile unspeakable cruelty of the Baby Scoop Era should be etched on every woman's brain and soul.

I did not have sex as a young woman until RvW was made law. There was NO WAY I was going to have my life taken away from me, to be imprisoned and tortured in gestational slavery. Even with birth control, that was a chance I was not willing to take if contraception failure meant certain torture and imprisonment.

Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
12. Feminism Unmodified by Catharine MacKinnon
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sep 2021

and all other books written by Catharine MacKinnon & Andrea Dworkin

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